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Jeff Fortson

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Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier !
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2010, 04:07:24 PM »




The greatest golf course sign

That sign will make your cornhole pucker up when you get out of your car in the parking lot preparing to play your first round in a USGA event.  I love all the themed stuff going on at The Bridge.  The maintainence shed still has all kinds of motor oil and auto racing signs on it.  Very cool feel. 


Jeff F.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier !
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2010, 05:25:35 PM »
Chris Munoz,

Agree about Bobby Ranum and Atlantic.

It's become a very, very good golf course thanks to Bobby, Rick, Rees and others.

Jeff Fortson

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Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier !
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2010, 07:04:51 PM »
Chris Munoz,

Agree about Bobby Ranum and Atlantic.

It's become a very, very good golf course thanks to Bobby, Rick, Rees and others.

Funny little tidbit...

As I was playing my practice round at Atlantic Thursday afternoon and I was on my last my last hole (#9; I teed off on #10), Rick Hartmann (Atlantic Golf Club's Head Pro) came out to see me play a hole or two as I knew him from being a pro in the Met Section.  Rick asked me what I thought of the course conditions for the competition.  I told him the greens were very firm but overall I thought it was fair.  He told me the USGA wanted the greens firmer and he was worried with that assessment.  He felt the greens were maxed out in being remotely fair considering their firmness.  I agreed.  I then proceeded to hit my approach to the 9th green.  I had @ 178 to a slightly short of center pin and hit a high, cut 6-iron into a right-to-left wind that was perfectly struck.  It landed 4 feet short of the hole, took a huge hop (@ 6 feet high) and came to rest 25 feet past the hole.  Rick looked at me and said, "that settles that."  I venture a guess that he got his way with the USGA and the green firmness stayed the same.  I think both courses played to their maxed out firmness potential on the greens and yet still fair.


Jeff F.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier ! New
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2010, 08:08:03 PM »
Jeff W:

Given the "improvements" on The Bridge -- do you see the course getting a more favorable response now than when it first opened several years ago ?

In sum -- does the course have the goods now to be rated among the best in the nation?

Matt,
 The golf course at The Bridge has improved every year it's been open.
The walk gets easier every year due to clearing and new lower tees.
The property and views are stunning.
The course condition is as good as it gets.

Membership is sold out-the owner still has 20  5 acre waterview lots above the golf course overlooking everything.
The owner has a low cost basis on the property and costs are kept under control-the super gets a lot out of a lot (however,there are certainly larger maint. budgets around)


The club has very cool vibe and pretentiousness is checked at the door.
Most members are young and actively working-there are a lot of interesting people there regularly.
The members play quickly(Mr. Rubin's top rule), despite their relative newness to the game.
There are very few rules, but the ones we have are adhered to quite well.(play quickly, be polite, turn off your cell phone)
It's not uncommon to see young kids playing, practicing ,and taking lessons, as they're welcome at any time. (as long as they follow the rules listed above)
No one is made to ever feel uncomfortable, regardless of their ability, their attire, or any other reason.
Because of that we see a lot of families and their guests hanging out on the deck, hitting balls,playing. putting, or just relaxing.
We close the range and 1st tee at 2:00 on Labor Day Sunday for the Junior Club Championship and no one ever complains.
We've had over 50 kids in the Club Championship each of the the last three years and that's a lot for a club with 150 members .
The local golf team plays there, we play the MET PGA ProPro there,we host the Long Island Intercollegiate Championship,and this year we host the MET Supers Team Championship as well.
I've had almost no turnover in staff in the 9 seasons I've been the pro so the staff is pleased with something.

There was some unfortunate early negative commentary about The Bridge, but the majority of that was ridiculously high expectations, overweight people who couldn't get a cart, and exaggeration about the "scene" at The Bridge.
(although we did have a member actually complain about the 6 pm fashion show on a Saturday involving 20 smoking hot super models)-
It is fun to poke fun at Clubs that detour from the status quo.
In short, those who have knocked The Bridge in the past don't get it--but as the owner says, The Bridge is not for everyone.
I do know we gained members during the recent economic meltdown, so we're doing something right.

As far as the course and where it belongs in the rankings, we'll leave that to the magazines, and I'll leave the course commentary to the people who play and compete at The Bridge.
I will say that we have happy members and their families and if they're happy (along with the owner) I'm happy.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2010, 11:35:44 AM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Matt_Ward

Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier !
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2010, 08:14:10 PM »
Jeff W:

Love all the country club info and how people interact.

you tapdanced around my question.

Do you see The Bridge as one of the top 100 courses in the USA from the ones you have played ?

Congrats on being a part of the US Mid Am this week -- glad to hear about the views being opened up.

Nothing like hitting balls on the practice area at The Bridge with the Peconic providing such a stunning view.

JohnV

Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier !
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2010, 12:19:16 PM »
Jeff F, it was great to see you sorry we didn't get time to chat.

Jeff W, I enjoyed our chats and I'm really sorry I never got the chance to get to the Bridge, but the weather got in the way.

Matt, sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you there.

I was a rover on the front 9 at Atlantic on the weekend and the switch in winds was dramatic.  The USGA staff setup the course on Saturday for the predicted winds, but Sunday was probably tough because of the reversal.  They can't change the tees on the course between stroke play rounds because everyone needs to play the same course.  Changes were:

Being a member of Pumpkin Ridge when Atlantic beat it for the Best New Public in 1992, I've always held a little grudge about the course.  From the pictures back then I'm not sure it was justified, but as it sits today, I'd rank it quite a ways above Witch Hollow if I was still a rater.  Really good bunkering, look and the greens have excellent movement in them without lots of shelves.  A couple of holes are a little odd.

Someone mentioned #11 which is a cute 128 yard par 3.  If they ever name the holes on the course, they should call it 'Two Pines'  It is Pine Valley in the front and Pinehurst in the back.

#18 at 611 yards uphill was the least interesting hole to me, especially the second shot which was to a big flat fairway without much interest to it.

Holes I particularly liked were 6, 9, 10 and 17.  I loved the cross bunker on 13 which forced the player to play left leaving a carry over the bunker to the green on the third shot or carry it and open up the green for an easier pitch.

jeffwarne

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Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier ! New
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2010, 12:37:48 PM »
Jeff F, it was great to see you sorry we didn't get time to chat.

Jeff W, I enjoyed our chats and I'm really sorry I never got the chance to get to the Bridge, but the weather got in the way.

Matt, sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you there.

I was a rover on the front 9 at Atlantic on the weekend and the switch in winds was dramatic.  The USGA staff setup the course on Saturday for the predicted winds, but Sunday was probably tough because of the reversal.  They can't change the tees on the course between stroke play rounds because everyone needs to play the same course.  Changes were:

Being a member of Pumpkin Ridge when Atlantic beat it for the Best New Public in 1992, I've always held a little grudge about the course.  From the pictures back then I'm not sure it was justified, but as it sits today, I'd rank it quite a ways above Witch Hollow if I was still a rater.  Really good bunkering, look and the greens have excellent movement in them without lots of shelves.  A couple of holes are a little odd.

Someone mentioned #11 which is a cute 128 yard par 3.  If they ever name the holes on the course, they should call it 'Two Pines'  It is Pine Valley in the front and Pinehurst in the back.

#18 at 611 yards uphill was the least interesting hole to me, especially the second shot which was to a big flat fairway without much interest to it.

Holes I particularly liked were 6, 9, 10 and 17.  I loved the cross bunker on 13 which forced the player to play left leaving a carry over the bunker to the green on the third shot or carry it and open up the green for an easier pitch.

John,
(regarding Atlantic)
interesting-I thought #18 had a bit of interest to the second shot, although the left fairway bunker could've been a bit tighter.
With the tees up, as they were in match play,you can take a left line on the tee shot.
18 used to have a grassy gully which had to be carried(or play to a narrow left fairway) which ran from about 180-140 out and was a scary shot into the wind-and a nightmare for the members.
I think I prefer the new hole.

10 was the hole most criticized by the Mid-am players I hung out with (they were all in the cross bunker after "perfect drives" ;D ;D drives)
I always liked that hole-not a lot of change

17 was never driveable before as there was just nowhere to hit it.
Doesn't seem real risk reward though as I don't see the risk from 280 downhill to a pretty wide area-(there's more risk in a layup)
I do like the hole though as all but a great tee shot go into the gathering front bunker

cross bunker on 13 is extended from the original design-always a good hole

9 is a very different hole (I liked both versions) 6 slightly fifferent
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 11:43:34 PM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

JohnV

Re: Bridge serves as part of Mid-Am qualifier !
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2010, 04:08:57 PM »
Jeff, thanks for the replay.  I only had one match make it to 18.  It was on Monday when we were using the back tees.  Both players hit decent drives and just layed up to the fairway with hybrids.  They didn't seem to have much trouble.  From there it was an easy shot to the green.  In relation to 6 and 13 and even 1, it was the least interesting par 5 on the course which made it a disappointment coming as the finishing hole.

Ten is a good hole.  Hard, but good.

I think I did like 17 better on the days when the tee was back and the players were laying up.  But, coming where it did in a match, it made for an exciting finish having it drivable.  It might not be overly challenging but the opportunity for a 2 or a 5 where still there.  There was even a lipout for a 1 on Saturday.

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