John Mayhugh
I have no problem with Ulrich, we at times correspond off GCA.com and neither of us have any reason to be offended. We may at times disagree with the odd comments or opinions. Is that not healthy debate and perhaps one of the reasons Ran created GCA.com.
My comment “OTM £1 per day rates for design seems to say he was in that business, but as I do not want to make an Ass of myself I will just say again I do not agree with you” does in no way show that I have taken offense to Ulrich’s posts
John, like Michael it’s the same old attitude of having a go at Melvyn at any opportunity in the hope of driving me from this site.
I understand Ulrich’s point, but my comment is that OTM WAS a designer, after Allan Robertson he was one of the first players to go into course design becoming one of the main course designers in GB&I with todate in excess of 100 designs and modifications to his name.
I was just pointing out that he was a designer in his own right by reinforcing the point by confirming that OTM Charging £1 per day for his time when designing (see PPS for breakdown of charges- salary). On top of other activities already mentioned.
My comments and that from Ulrich where of friends exchanging opinions until that is Michael stirs his sickness into the pot for his own warped ends.
Melvyn
PS Thanks Eric.
PPS Let’s examine the money values as I think this may prove that one could make a living out of design by charging £1per day in the 19th Century. That was close to $100 a day.
Before continuing lets remembers that Old Tom kept his Fee of £1 per day from the 1860’s onward as his way of helping new clubs form, not burdening them with large debts before they started acquiring a large Membership. Any volunteers from the current Band of Designers, as it would be for the good of the game.
The annual Salary of Old Tom was £50 a year, other Green Keepers/ Professionals were on £25 per year, so to equate £1 its equivalent to one week’s salary for the average individual. That breaks down to the fact that Old Tom weekly salary was £1 per week but charged £1 per day for design. I am certain many will see where I am coming from and now heading. I think he could live on that. As years passed he made money via his Shop, Matches, Green Keeping, etc etc so was able to maintain the £1 per day charge up into the 20th Century.
Nevertheless it was a liveable fee.