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Adam Clayman

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Is there accounting for...
« on: August 06, 2010, 08:27:45 AM »
Taste?   So much of each persons appreciation for gca lies in their ..._____ (Fill in the blank)?   My opinion will have to wait until I have more computer time. 
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 08:38:08 AM »
Unconscious

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2010, 08:42:32 AM »
Capacity for appreciation.

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2010, 08:48:42 AM »
Willingness to let bygones be bygones and to look with fresh and open eyes uncluttered by past experience or rigid preconceptions at each new vista that presents itself, in-and-of-itself

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2010, 08:49:36 AM »
Inate visual acuity
« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 08:51:44 AM by PPallotta »

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 08:51:03 AM »
Healthy self-regard for one's own subjective experience

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 08:52:09 AM »
Imagination

JC Jones

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 08:54:42 AM »
ability to read other people's opinions and make them their own.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 09:05:03 AM »
Ability to read other people's opinions and make them their own

Scott Warren

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2010, 09:12:25 AM »
a) experiences.

b) prejudices.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 09:23:14 AM by Scott Warren »

Mike Benham

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 09:15:27 AM »

ability as a golfer
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Jamie Barber

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 09:20:17 AM »
head

Chris Shaida

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 09:24:11 AM »
Ability to read other people's opinions and make them their own

That's funny...

'Willingness to let bygones be bygones and to look with fresh and open eyes uncluttered by past experience or rigid preconceptions at each new vista that presents itself, in-and-of-itself'

But (more seriously) I don't really know what this means.  Are you saying that your ideal is to see 'each new vista' as if you'd never seen a vista before?  the 'in-and-of-itself' part seems to say that?  If that's the case then I'm at the other end of this (subjective or 'unconscious') spectrum--for me every 'vista' is another vista in a chain--and that's not something to be overcome (for me) or to get beyond to a purer, in-and-of-itself state.  Said another way, 'story' is absolutely essential for me in experiencing a golf course--whether it's the story of the golf course, the story of play on that course, my story in getting to this particular day and this particular swing, the stories of my playing partners, etc.    Even a course that I know almost nothing about becomes (for me) an experience about finding or even inventing a 'story'.  Maybe this means I'm just bad zen material...


JC Jones

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 09:28:07 AM »
Like Wesley Snipes's apartment complex in White Men Can't Jump: Vista View

"There ain't no vista and there ain't no view and there sure as hell ain't no vistas of no views"
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 09:53:55 AM »

Taste?   So much of each persons appreciation for gca lies in their ..._____ Lack of commitment to the game of golf preferring to bastardise a great Game due to one's ignorance

Ops no offence intended, of course, just completing a caption. But then you would expect me to give a honest opinion otherwise
whats the point of asking.

Melvyn


Mike Hendren

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 10:13:25 AM »
...understanding of the myriad of ways and reasons the game of golf is played.
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Mac Plumart

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 10:13:56 AM »
So much of each persons appreciation for gca lies in their ..._____


Idea of fun.
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2010, 10:18:31 AM »
Chris - really good and articulate post (and funny about being bad zen material...). I haven't thought it through as well as you have, but also I mainly just meant that I could better appreciate specific architecture (on a specific hole on a specific course) if as I first viewed it (the vista) I tried to stop myself from too quickly saying something like a) "Oh yeah, I've seen this before, it's like the 7th hole at X, he tries to fool you into going left off the tee...or b) "this course sucks, I never deserved that double bogie on the last, that was an unfair hole, and now what do we got here - oh yeah, another strangely designed hole, I can't make any sense of it".

Peter

Bogie - nice post too, very good to include "ways AND reasons".

JESII

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2010, 10:53:54 AM »
So much of each persons appreciation for gca lies in their ... EXPECTATIONS 


On the first go'round...


After that, it must spring from their ability to learn new things.

Phil_the_Author

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2010, 12:10:16 PM »
Ability to be inspired and awed...

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2010, 12:22:31 PM »
For some odd reason, I now feel inspired to quote from one of my favourite (and best) plays of the last 50 years.

"Stocks, bonds, objects of art - what are they? An opportunity to make money. Perhaps.  An opportunuty to lose money. Perhaps.  An opportunity to 'indulge and to learn about ourselves'? Perhaps. So f--king what, what isn't? They're an event, that's all they are.  A guy comes up to you, you make a call, you send in a brochure, it doesn't matter, 'There're these properties I'd like for you to see.'  What does it mean? What you want it to mean?"


             

JMEvensky

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2010, 12:30:18 PM »
For some odd reason, I now feel inspired to quote from one of my favourite (and best) plays of the last 50 years.

"Stocks, bonds, objects of art - what are they? An opportunity to make money. Perhaps.  An opportunuty to lose money. Perhaps.  An opportunity to 'indulge and to learn about ourselves'? Perhaps. So f--king what, what isn't? They're an event, that's all they are.  A guy comes up to you, you make a call, you send in a brochure, it doesn't matter, 'There're these properties I'd like for you to see.'  What does it mean? What you want it to mean?"


             

GGR?

Maybe you could award a set of steak knives to the one who finally determines TEP's purpose on this website.

Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2010, 12:39:38 PM »
ha, ha - good one, Jeff. 

Yes, GGR. And, re purpose, maybe this: 'What's the point? What's the f--king point, anyway? I gotta argue with you, I gotta bust heads with the cops - all to sell your dirt to deadbeats. Money in the mattress!"




Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2010, 03:18:02 PM »
..wallet.
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

George Pazin

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Re: Is there accounting for...
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2010, 04:06:07 PM »
As I read that quote, I feared it was GGR.

Along with musicals, I do not get GGR.

Stocks, bonds, objects of art - they are not events. They are assets.

Lots of interesting answers, I think I favor Bogey's. Though I did laugh hardest with Peter's repetition post...perfect comic timing.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

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