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Mac Plumart

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« on: July 24, 2010, 02:47:11 PM »
I have just started reading my first book my Herbert Warren Wind, "Following Through"

I had high expectations, but they are being blown away.  His article/chapter on Dornoch was amazing.

Any recommendations for my next Wind book?  The Story of American Golf?  I'd be interested to hear your opinions and/or comments.

Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

PThomas

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 02:49:46 PM »
you MUST get the book you mentioned Mac...one of the best if not the best golf history book out there
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Mac Plumart

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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 02:53:51 PM »
Thanks Paul...with a recommendation like that...I'll order it today.

« Last Edit: July 24, 2010, 03:04:52 PM by Mac Plumart »
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Colin Macqueen

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2010, 06:25:34 PM »
Mac,
Considering that your golfing season is relatively short compared to that in OZ here are some books which will allow you to while away the long winter nights between golfing seasons! I thoroughly enjoyed them all. After you have finished this fine collection and been duly examined as to their content I can provide you with a few more gems!

The Lure of Golf - Herbert Warren Wind

For the Love of Golf: The Best of Dobereiner - Peter Dobereiner

Not only Golf - Pat Ward-Thomas

The Essential Henry Longhurst - Edited by Chris Plumridge

Yours Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Ryan Admussen

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 06:50:10 PM »
Just finished "A Course Called Ireland" nothing too serious just a fun read, which has sparked planning a trip to Ireland this spring.

hick

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 06:59:57 PM »
Mac , are you ordering from classics of golf. I like all  wind books and one of my top wind books is On The Tour with Harry Sprague. The Story of American Golf is a must read.

David_Tepper

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 07:07:38 PM »
Mac -

Starting your reading with Following Through does not leave too much room from improvement. Kind of like breaking par on your first round at Cypress Point or Augusta National. He wrote 4-6 golf columns per year for the New Yorker magazine for many years and they are all worth reading. If there is any way you can access them from the magazine's website, I would encourage you to do so.

I remember a column he wrote about the Masters one year that devoted a number a paragraphs to watching Seve Ballesteros hit ball on the range. He made it sound captivating.

DT 


Mac Plumart

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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 07:14:09 PM »
Hey guys...thanks. 

David...to your point about him making Seve hitting balls on the range a captivating read, that is why I am blown away by Mr. Wind.  He simply seems to be describing what he sees and in the context he sees them, but he sees things differently and/or different thing than I do.  It really does make his writing fascinating to read.  I see why he is such a respected writer.

Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

David_Tepper

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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 07:44:45 PM »
Mac -

It looks like you can access the database of Wind's New Yorker columns online at www.newyorker.com, if you are a subscriber to the magazine. A one-year subscription might be money well spent, just for that privelege.

DT

Mac Plumart

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 07:47:22 PM »
My wife has a subscription.  BABY!!!

Thanks!
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

David_Tepper

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2010, 08:04:31 PM »
Mac -

FYI, H.W. Wind writes just as well about tennis as he does about golf.

DT

PThomas

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 09:27:16 PM »
Mac -

Starting your reading with Following Through does not leave too much room from improvement. Kind of like breaking par on your first round at Cypress Point or Augusta National. He wrote 4-6 golf columns per year for the New Yorker magazine for many years and they are all worth reading. If there is any way you can access them from the magazine's website, I would encourage you to do so.

I remember a column he wrote about the Masters one year that devoted a number a paragraphs to watching Seve Ballesteros hit ball on the range. He made it sound captivating.

DT 



i think that practice range of Seve's you mentioned David was in the 1986 Masters...Winds said it was the best practice session he ever saw
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

PThomas

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2010, 09:37:01 PM »
Mac - a few more suggestions after a look thru my library (architecture books NOT included, as they have been discussed many times on GCA)

any books by Dan Jenkins, Chrles Price and Peter Dobereiner..and Longhurst

David Owen's "My Usual game "

Sidney Matthew is a Jones expert and has written several books on him

James Dodson's book on Hogan

the publisher The AMerican Golfer has done several great books on Jack, Hogan (2 books on him), Nelson, etc

and as Mat Hickery suggested definitely check out The Classics of Golf, as they have reprints of many great books for about $30 each
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

David_Tepper

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2010, 09:52:01 PM »
Other good books in the genre of David Owen's My Usual Game are To the Linksland by Michael Bamberger and Dogleg Madness by Mike Bryan. Bamberger's book also has a good chapter on Dornoch.

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Ken Moum

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2010, 11:02:51 PM »
Don't overlook David Owen's Making of the Masters, it's sometime criticized for being soft on Roberts and ANGC, but he is the only writer who ever had access to all the club's archives in the basement.

FWIW, I also recommend Clifford Roberts' book on ANGC,  I managed to score a couple of them on eBay, and it's a very interesting read.

Over time, the guy in the ideal position derives an advantage, and delivering him further  advantage is not worth making the rest of the players suffer at the expense of fun, variety, and ultimately cost -- Jeff Warne, 12-08-2010

Tim_Cronin

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2010, 02:52:04 AM »
Anything by Herb Wind is a must read. When you delve through the New Yorker database, don't miss his profile of Larry Bird. It starts with about 3,000 words on the Bruins and Bobby Orr.

Anything by Henry Longhurst is delightful. Bernard Darwin provides a masters degree in golf before World War II. And if you can find a collection of golf stories put together by Herb Graffis, you're one-up on the field. I'm away from home and can't for the life of me remember the title, but it might have been under Esquire's care.
The website: www.illinoisgolfer.net
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Mac Plumart

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2010, 07:22:13 AM »
Awesome stuff guys!

Ken...I may have read that book by David Owen.  I was at Secession staying in one of the cabins and they had a book on the Masters/Augusta there.  However, I can't remember the title.  But I read it pretty intently as previously on this site I had posted that I was under the impression that Augusta was built with a professional tournament in mind.  However Adam Clayman told me he thought I was wrong on that one and that the tournament idea came after the course was already being built.  And after reading it, Adam was right and I was wrong.  Another example of how you can learn something every day on this site, if you want to.

Again...great stuff guys!!
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Colin Macqueen

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2010, 07:45:51 AM »
Mac,
The GCA contributors to this thread have pretty much covered the other books I would have mentioned as great reading material, particularly Bernard Darwin, so for the sake of completing the books that I would recommend you might want to bear in mind

The Golf Omnibus - P. G. Wodehouse.   Anglophilic? Yes, but contains hilarious caricatures of golf club personalties and golfing dilemmas. A wordsmith indeed.

Golf.  The Badminton Library. - Horace G. Hutchinson with contributions by other British worthies which was originally published in 1890.  Wonderful, amusingl writing even though it may be considered outdated. The most hilarious and pithy descriptions of caddies I have ever read. Very humorous.

Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Mac Plumart

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2010, 08:54:21 AM »
Thanks Colin.

Interestingly enough, I have that Badminton Library Book on Golf...or at least one of the additions...maybe 1893ish.  Ralph Livingston told me it is his go to book regarding hickory golf.  What is fascinating about reading that book (and many of the books written some time ago) is the context it puts on things.  As they were written as contemporary books at the time, but are historical now.  If that makes sense. 

Anyway, thanks...I'll check them out.
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Phil McDade

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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2010, 09:37:57 AM »
Mac:

A book I really enjoyed was: Pilgrims in the Rough: St. Andrews beyond the 19th hole. Written by Michael Tobert, a St. Andrews resident and R&A member, the book is a somewhat light-hearted and affectionate look at a town rich in history that has come to be identified by many solely via its connection to golf. The book wanders in and around the Auld Grey Toon, mixing history with observations about golf, The Old Course, the citizens who live there, and the golfers who make a sojourn to the town. Not a must read, but a good one. Amazon has copies.

PCCraig

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2010, 10:26:59 AM »
Mac:

Try visiting some local book sales, esp. at local libraries. They can be fantastic places to stock up on all types of golf books. Not only are they a great place to pick up a bunch of good books...they are usually pretty cheap.
H.P.S.

BCrosby

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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2010, 11:00:36 AM »
Mac -

Best golf book nobody knows is Patric Dickinson's A Round of Golf Courses. (That's not a misspelling of his name.)

Let me say that differently. Dickinson's book is one of the best golf books ever written. It just happens not to be well known.

Bob

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Dale Jackson

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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2010, 11:03:00 AM »
Mac, HWW is a great writer, the words just seem to cover you in a warm blanket.

I think there is only one other collection of his writings and it was a book published in the - I think - the late 1960s.  It is long out of print and has some overlap with Following Through.  For example, you will have read the piece about Ballybunion; together with the Dornoch profile, my favourite pieces in Following Through.   The Ballybunion piece is part of a longer article that is included complete in the other book.

Here is a link to a copy on eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com/Herbert-Warren-Winds-Golf-Book-Foreword-Bing-Crosby-/170517395254?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item27b3a0f736
I've seen an architecture, something new, that has been in my mind for years and I am glad to see a man with A.V. Macan's ability to bring it out. - Gene Sarazen

David_Tepper

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2010, 11:04:44 AM »
www.bookcloseouts.com has almost 500 discounted & remaindered books about golf listed for sale. Many of the books are rather useless, but they do have books like the updated World Atlas of Golf (for $20) and books on GCA by Nicklaus and RT Jones, Jr. available as well. They even have a book by fellow GCA-er Mark Rowlinson listed!

http://www.bookcloseouts.com/Store/Browse/_/N-0/Ntt-golf

Books of interest include:

Preferred Lies by Andrew Greig ($3.59)
Dream Golf, the Making of Bandon Dunes by Stephen Goodwin ($4.99)
Bernard Darwin on Golf ($3.39)
Tommy's Honour by Kevin Cook ($5.99)
On Golf  by Timothy O'Grady ($2.79)
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Dan King

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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2010, 03:04:17 PM »
Almost 10 years ago someone else asked for suggestions. I ended up saving my response:
http://www.danking.org/books.html

Many of those already mentioned are on my list. The one that I recently reread and really love is Tom Morton's Hell's Golfer: A Good Walk Spoiled. It's the fictional story of Arnold Evelyn MacLachlan Palmer's trip around the western islands of Scotland on a Kawasaki playing golf.

Cheers,
Dan King
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Golf is an Emerson Lake and Palmer triple concert album, A Rick Wakeman mock-rock-opera, an interminable 25-minute instrumental by Yes. It is fat, self-satisfied, drunk on its own bourgeois snobbishnesism, racist, sexist, caught in some 1970s fashion timewarp or Pringles sweaters and hideous tartan trousers made of Crimplene, a substance long abandoned in every other sphere of human existence. Golf is acknowledged for the breeding of truly hellish haircuts, bleary gin-and-tonic politics, obsessive collectors of monogrammed tees, and an entire range of supremely boring Volswagen cars.

So why do I love it so?
--Tom Morton (Introduction to Hell's Golfer)

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