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Jim Colton

Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« on: July 21, 2010, 07:24:00 PM »
Potential downtown course could be a blast from past

http://www.omaha.com/article/20100721/SPORTS/707219849/0

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Steve Lang

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 07:54:12 PM »
 8) polymer, balata, or featherie sir?

walking only? haha..

just wondering who's putting value to Wiren's collection? 
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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 07:59:04 PM »
$15 million dollars? I see this as an opportunity that Wiren is taking advantage of to sell his collection...
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Mac Plumart

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 08:46:11 PM »
This could be sweet!!  Perhaps it will show people how fun this type of golf can be.  Please keep us all in the loop as this thing progresses.
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Steve Strasheim

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 09:07:25 PM »
Awesome, just awesome.

Will be following this one closely, hope it comes to fruition.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 09:12:45 PM »
It's early days yet, too early to tell how serious it is, but a well-liked former mayor is behind it, and there are several huge downtown businesses which could easily help make it happen out of their petty cash.  The site is unbelievably close to downtown ... walking distance from the convention center.
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Jim Sweeney

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 09:18:36 PM »
What this project needs to do the funding is a deca-billionaire golf enthusiast. Are there any in Omaha?
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Jason Hines

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 09:25:10 PM »
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Mike Policano

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 10:04:12 PM »
I thought Tom ready built a great hickory course - Ballyneal. I play my hickory clubs there everytime I go out there. The fast and firm conditions make it a perfect hickory course.
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 10:28:29 PM »
I think it's a great idea. 15 mil in a city these days, doesn't go far. And the key is it's demographic. These people do love their golf too. It sounds like a win win for everyone. Adding some more sophistication to the area through golf in Omaha, is a great way to highlight one of the states hidden assets. Great sand based golf. It sounds like they are Using land probably not suited for much else, too.

Council Bluffs casinos will be a key component to this being profitable, I'm sure.
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Derek Dirksen

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 11:12:40 PM »
It must be on old Union Pacific ground if its that close to downtown???
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David Schofield

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 08:47:46 PM »
Looking forward to an excuse to visit Omaha again.  Went there a decade ago and loved the downtown. 
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Tony_Chapman

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 10:46:42 PM »
Tom -- Will Gallup headquarters be the clubhouse? Is that the parcel?
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Mike H

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2010, 11:04:24 PM »
What is the long term viability of playing with old clubs?  I can see it being fun to do a couple times a year but not every round.
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2010, 11:58:56 PM »
Tom has said many times on here how he"d love to desing a short quirky course. Ok. So he was thinking 6400 yards. I bet he could cvreate something that might inspire people to play there frequently.
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Shane Wright

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2010, 10:08:25 AM »
I can't help but be excited about this.  Omaha has been very aggressive with development in recent years and so far they have had tremendous success IMO.  I really hope this can come to fruition....talk about a fantastic use of the land.  It isn't usable for commercial development but location is awesome. 

Thanks for posting the article Jim.
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Mac Plumart

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2010, 11:26:07 AM »
Quote from: Mike Hunsucker on July 22, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
What is the long term viability of playing with old clubs?  I can see it being fun to do a couple times a year but not every round.

Mike...give it a try and see for yourself.  It has proven to be very viable to me...but I am a pretty good athlete and playing with modern clubs is proving to be a bit too easy for me.   ;)
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Dan Boerger

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2010, 11:42:18 AM »
I, too, am excited about this. One of my major clients is located in downtown Omaha and has already helped fund some residential development there. I would really look forward to playing if it becomes a reality.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2010, 12:26:50 PM »
I think Warren Buffet is an Omaha resident and fairly avid golfer.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2010, 02:01:45 PM »
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Sure Tom, wait for me to move away from Omaha......

Is it going to butt up against the county jail?

Hey, a caddie/work release program, where caddie fees can be adjusted to fund jailhouse expenditures.

Is Mike O still doing landscaping in Omaha?  I'll bet he would be a great asset to have on site as a free agent shaper for Renaissance.

Seriously, can you get permitted to dredge the river for fill?  Wouldn't that be a great source for shaping features and engineering a system of drainage in the flood plain.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2010, 02:08:46 PM »
Quote from: Adam Clayman on July 21, 2010, 10:28:29 PM
I think it's a great idea. 15 mil in a city these days, doesn't go far. And the key is it's demographic. These people do love their golf too. It sounds like a win win for everyone. Adding some more sophistication to the area through golf in Omaha, is a great way to highlight one of the states hidden assets. Great sand based golf. It sounds like they are Using land probably not suited for much else, too.

Council Bluffs casinos will be a key component to this being profitable, I'm sure.

$15 million, minimalist, and National Golf Foundation------all three phrases  in the same article....

Seems a great idea got lost somewhere............
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2010, 02:21:03 PM »
Yes Jeff, I think you are right.  I guess one has to chalk some of the rhetoric of using "minimalist" to marketting.  Low profile is or could be an accurate term: but minimalist? 

But, reading the article, TD never used the word minimalist.  He spoke of 'low profile'.

Not that there is anything inherently superior in either 'minimalist' or manufactured.  It could be highly manufactured out of necessity, yet low profile and be great, good, or mediocre.  That will be up to the design/constructors.  Their record is pretty good up to now...  ;) ;D 8)
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2010, 03:15:57 PM »
Dredging the river made me think 'Omaha's Lido'. :)
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Ulrich Mayring

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2010, 04:34:34 PM »
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$15 million, minimalist, and National Golf Foundation------all three phrases  in the same article....

Don't forget "carts" and "modern championship length". Are they trying to have their cake and eat it?

A strictly hickory course would be a great idea, although I don't see value in limited-flight balls. Is the Guttie too long these days? :)

Ulrich
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Unique Doak Project in Omaha?
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2010, 04:37:27 PM »
Well I'll be darned, take a look at this map cutout.  Look at how Iowa's border comes up into what you'd think is city of O.  I'll bet you could win some beer bets with that one!  Hey, I'll be the Iowa Nebraska border is west of Eppley field...  ;) ::)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Omaha,+NE&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.160552,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Omaha,+Douglas,+Nebraska&ll=41.28832,-95.922146&spn=0.02986,0.087547&z=14

There has got to be a good story behind how that border-boundary happened!
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