Chris;
I had the great pleasure of playing Victoria National, my only private course ever. John was a great host [thanks again].
Belterra has space outside the fairways! The Vic has quite spacey fairways, but mostly if you missed you are dead, likely lost. It is a very penal course for a scatter shooter like me. I did not care! What a landscape and use thereof. There really is no comparison on almost any level. If you can, play this course.
BTW, the back nine will come next obviously, and it is even better.
Liddy owns Indiana public GCA! Sultan's Run, Rock Hollow, and Trophy Club make my Top Five, as does The Fort which I think he help on.
Great thread, thanks Joe.
Doug