[Richard Hetzel]

Since I am passing through on I-80 next week, would it be worthwhile to stop and play the Ross course at Pocono Manor???

[Chris_Blakely]

Since I am passing through on I-80 next week, would it be worthwhile to stop and play the Ross course at Pocono Manor???

I think it is.  It is quite quirky with TWO blind par 3's.  I thought it was proven that the course is more Flynn than Ross.

Chris

[Andy Hughes]

I used to play a number of rounds at Glenbrook and always thought it was entertaining.

   Matt, you have made my day!

[Bruce Katona]

Golf & Casino gambling as a business model....adult entertainment for daylight and nighttime......seems to me this model has been tried not too far from the Pocono's with mixed results.

[Phil_the_Author]

Bruce,

There is one major resort that both resisited and opposed it and is intending to never be invovled with it... Shawnee.

[Matt_Ward]

The Poconos issue is that it took so long to make something happen while everyone else fast-tracked it. The plus side is that literally millions of people are within 100 miles so tapping into a mega market can be done. The issue is whether the Poconos has the cache across the board with golf being just one option.

Proximity helps and so long as the economy is limping along many people will opt to stay closer to home.

The golf dimension is a very limited one and denizens of GCA expecting Rustic Canyon or Wild Horse or Black Mesa will have to look elsewhere.

The Poconos is coming back -- albeit at the speed level of 10 mph -- unfortunately the speed limit they need to attain is much closer to 55 mph.

[Mike Cirba]

Pocono Manor was not designed by Ross.

Its sort of quirky and fun though.

[Steve_ Shaffer]

Mike Cirba's favorite course is now public:

http://poconosbestgolf.com/

[Mike Cirba]

You're a cruel and evil man, Steve.

[D_Malley]

"Since I am passing through on I-80 next week, would it be worthwhile to stop and play the Ross course at Pocono Manor???"

Richard,
I would say that Buck Hill Falls is definitely worth a visit.  I think it is head and shoulders above the rest in the Poconos.
but i do like Water Gap as well and it is only about 1/2 mile off of rt. 80 just before entering NJ
WG is probably not in as good of condition as BHF would be.

PS... i have never played Jack Frost or Great Bear

[Mike Cirba]

D_Malley,

I'd concur on Buck Hill Falls, which for some odd reasons fails to get much buzz but it's actually Ross, mostly, with some Robert White.

Tom MacWood found that the first nine holes at Pocono Manor were actually designed by H.H. Barker, while Wayne Morrison found that the second nine was designed by William Flynn.   Go figure! 

[D_Malley]

That is very ironic, especially considering that the first two golf courses which i worked at were merion and pocono manor

[Steve_ Shaffer]

It looks like Fernwood in the Poconos is vying for a  casino license as is Nemacolin in SW PA:

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20100822_4_seeking_Pa__s_final_casino_license.html

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