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James Bennett

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Long-time readers may recall a couple of past golfing trips that I have enjoyed. As many of you are aware, my golf trips tend to be infrequent, but desirable.  Typically, they have involved spending a day in an aeroplane, then getting lost driving on the wrong side of the road looking for an abscure address  with houses that all look the same.  Without a tom-tom, and without a navigator.   The first trip was in April/May 2006 with a multi-week visit from California to Vegas to NY to Philly, and on to England/Scotland (incl Painswick!), travelling at times with my wife and her mum.  The second trip was in March/April 2007 through Los Angeles on the way to the Reverse Old Course get-together, followed by London and Leeds.  I have had the privilege to meet a number of fellow GCA'ers on these visits.

Well, work has been a continuos 3 year event since then, and the annual leave balances have climbed but are now being reduced.  So, where to for my next trip?  Well, it looks like my friend Marcel (Terry Thornton) and I will be treking across the Western Desert in mid-November, leaving Adelaide on Saturday 13 November and returning from Melbourne on Sunday 21 November. Could be a game at Horsham on the way over to break up the days travel, if not a wlk and photo-shoot.

Much of the period will be spent deep in the Melbourne sandbelt, which I am looking forward to.  I have seen all of the best courses there, visiting with greenstaff from my club.  However, I haven't actually played at the best of these.  I am this year.

Honestly, I don't know how I will manage that much golf physically. I suspect my legs and lower back will get pretty tired, and my hands will hurt. My young brain will say 36 holes a day is a good idea, but my older body will disagree. Perhaps alcohol will help. Perhaps.

We are spending a couple of days at that outer suburb of the Melbourne sandbelt called Bridport (it is in Tasmania, across Bass Strait, an hours flight from Melbourne, coupled with a couple of hours drive through wild country). Apparently, the first day will be at some place called 'Lost Farm' and the second at 'Barn-Bugle', well something like that. That covers the Monday and Tuesday (and Sunday night).

Apart from that, we will be in Melbourne's deep south. Well, inner south really.

Following discussions with Matthew Mollica, we have arranged a get-together one evening with the local melbournian golf mafia (The Golf Forum and GCA) where the discussion will be on three separate aspects of my past 'Big Trips'.  Many of you here will be familiar with them.  Hopefully, I can supplement a bit of verbal discussion with some pictures and useful information, and get some help from other Melbourne mafia'ers to pad out a couple of hours of information. Red wine will be optional, not mandatory.

The three topics will be:

St Andrews Reverse course. There was also golf at other locales in Fife, plus the North Berwick area.

Merion East. An interesting study in maximising the golf outcome on a small parcel of land, although some of the solutions would not be tolerated today. There was other golf in Philadelphia and nearby New Jersey on that trip.

Cypress Point. There was other golf in San Francisco and the area down to Monterey Peninsula. There is also the road trip to LA.  There was also golf in LA on a separate trip (2007 Rustic Canyon/Riviera/Lakeside Tommy).

I plan on taking the camera, and am happy to post a travelogue of some sort on the daily happenings.  Are you interested to hear?  Hopefully, there will be some points of interest apart from just eye-candy photos.  There will be modern eye-candy from Bill Coore and from Tom Doak/Mike Clayton as well as the old world classics from Melbourne.

Any thoughts or questions, please post away. I hope we can crack double figures at the get-together. I also hope we can fill you in on things you are interested in but haven't had the opportunity to experience, yet.  Some of you in the other hemisphere should take a holiday on a big plane.  Currency conversion is pretty easy these days as $1 OZ = $1 US, and we speak a similar language down here (well, probably closer to west coast US than to deep south or east coast US).

Andigold (The Golf Forum) has kindly offered a room at the Parkview on St Kilda rd.  It has a fridge (enabling that great Melbourne practice of BYO), with some food provided. About $10 a head. Sounds too cheap to me. Sounds excellent.

Andigold has advised

"Friday night at the Parkview? I can organise a function room with some food in chaffing dishes for around $10 a head (curry & Rice, a pasta bake, bread and a couple of salads). I'll have a fridge and glassware there and people can bring their own drinks."

I know that David Elvins is coming, so his views on Merion East will be available.  I hope Sean Walsh can make it as he (and Chris) were at the Old Course.  And Terry Thornton has been to CPC.  So it should make for an interesting discussion, with more than one opinion on the questions that hopefully arise.

Looking forward to this time, and having an opportunity to put some content back up on GCA again.  I just need to get the camera sorted - it hasn't liked 3 years of inactivity.

cheers all, and I hope your health is sound.  Looking forward to seeing some of you in Melbourne next month (and some others in March 2011 at the Boomerang).

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Shane Gurnett

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Sounds like a cool road trip James. Looking forward to a hit with you and Terry at Commonwealth on the Friday, and a few reds with the boys later that night.

Shane.

Kevin Pallier

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Are you interested to hear?

Absolutely !!

James - if I didn't live 10 hrs away I would have loved to have joined you.

Make sure you stop at Horsham - it's on it's own sandbelt per se and is one of the best country courses Australia has.

Look forward to photos and snippits of your trip.

I presume you are going along the Ocean Road to boot ?

Bill_McBride

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I wanna be there!  Sounds like a great trip.

My legs and back are also failing.  Last weekend at the Dixie on the hilly courses around Charlotte, I mostly walked (hopped occasional uphill treks on the back nine).  In Pinehurst on Monday, my legs were so dead I could hardly walk let alone hit any decent shots...... :-[

Onward and upward!

I remember that trip in 2007 with great pleasure, despite being dispatched by yourself twice at Muirfield - in one day!  ;D

James Bennett

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I wanna be there!  Sounds like a great trip.

I remember that trip in 2007 with great pleasure, despite being dispatched by yourself twice at Muirfield - in one day!  ;D

Bill

I remember that trip, wih great affection.  The incidents in the bunkers at Muirfield will remain private ......

Kevin P

hopefully no emergencies will occur on our trip - I don't know whether Vic Emergency is as reliable as the NSW SES....

No Ocean Road, just the fast trip this time.  I am planning on suggesting to a big tall surgeon from the East Coast (ex-GCA'er) that the Ocean Road makes sense, next year!  Horsham - have visitied before with the golf club to see some things.  Will be fascinating to see it post bushfire, with the pines gone.  It could be an 'inland links'.  I suspect we just won;t have the time, the energy or the physical fitness to do more than a photo-shoot and walk.

Shane

do we have a fourth?  Looking forward to it.  Are you available ealrier in the week, for a smaller dinner?  MM has some good wine that needs to be consumed by discerning, non-Essendon supporters.

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Shane Gurnett

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James, we will have at least four. Dinner earlier in the week should be fine.

James Bennett

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Dinner earlier in the week should be fine.

What about Wednesday night?  MM?  Thursday night isn't likely, as we are playing withe the RM 'wets' that day.

Benje
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Terry Thornton

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What about Wednesday night? 
Benje

I suspect the single malt range at KH may do you (certainly me) more damage than 'the wets'

James Bennett

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What about Wednesday night? 
Benje

I suspect the single malt range at KH may do you (certainly me) more damage than 'the wets'

My apologies Terry, have we opened the single malt cupboard on your visits here?  If not, we will.  And, does single malt travel well?  We might just take a bottle or two with us!

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Bill_McBride

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What about Wednesday night? 
Benje

I suspect the single malt range at KH may do you (certainly me) more damage than 'the wets'

My apologies Terry, have we opened the single malt cupboard on your visits here?  If not, we will.  And, does single malt travel well?  We might just take a bottle or two with us!

James B

Single malts do travel well.  I always take a bottle of my favorite on golf trips, the Balvenie Doublewood.  Purely for medicinal purposes of course!

Mike_Clayton

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James,

When are you at Barnbougle? I am there on the 14th and 15th - but them unfortunately go to Perth to play so I will miss you.

James Bennett

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James,

When are you at Barnbougle? I am there on the 14th and 15th - but them unfortunately go to Perth to play so I will miss you.

our paths cross!  Terry and I get in on the Sunday night (14/11).  We are booked in to Lost Farm on the Monday 15/11, and then Barnbougle on the Tuesday.  My first time at both (and at RM, CW and KH).  I think we are staying at Barnbougle.

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Mike_Clayton

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Great. I am there on the Monday and Tuesday as well. I guess its 15 and 16 - not 14 and 15.
See you guys there.

James Bennett

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Just to clarify .......

the get-to-gether (GTG) is on Friday week, 19 November at around 7pm at the Parkview on St Kilda Road in Melbourne.

Old Course Reverse, Merion East and CXypress Point, plus (perhaps) a moment or two on Barnbougle and Lost Farm.  Plus a few drinks.  BYO available, some food provided.  Cost is probably $10/head.

Looking forward to seeing many of you there.

James B

edit - we have 17 or 18 so far going.  Some GCA, some TGF, but no foreigners.  Pity.
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Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Kevin Pallier

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How's the trip going James ?

James Bennett

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Kevin

Outstanding!

We stopped off at Horsham on the way over, but it was raining.  We saw the 'links' post bushfire.  Good things can come out of tragedy, and the course looks mighty fine to my eye.  We will probably stop for a walk there on the drive home.  However, it was really sad to see absolutely no sign of the previous clubhouse, gone in the fire.  The office is running out of a shipping container, and a temporary clubhouse has been established.  I think there are plans on the wall for the new facility but I don't know what the status is.  At least the rains have returned and so the local community will be more prosperous.

So far, Royal Melbourne East, on the Sunday just gone.  Restrained grandeur.  To see all of these holes I have seen and loved, and then gradually realise which hole is which, a really grand day.  It was meant to rain, but we never had a brolly up.  The Masters was on just across the road, but you wouldn't know.  I loved the first two paddocks, plus much of the third paddock.  There are really good holes on the East on the flatter parts of the third paddock, but because they are on slightly lesser ground, they just don't get the same love.  Personally, I would be happy to play the lesser holes every week - they are still good holes.  Golf as a three-ball in about 3 hours 40 minutes.

Then, fly to Launceston (Launy!), pick up the hire car and the four of us drive to Bridport, to Barnbougle.  It is a different country there.  I must say the accomodation set-ups there are absolutely perfect for golf, and the quality of the food in the clubhouse is far beyond what can normally be expected in such a location.  First class.

Golf started at Barnbougle -  Lost Farm.  It wasn't very long before the 'Jizz in my pants' was happening.  Remember, I haven't been to Ireland, and I hadn't (at that time) played the Original course.  We got around (as a 4) in about 4 hours, despite the camera snapping and the occasional re-putt.  In the afternoon, Geoff Ogilvy and Mike Clayton were playing Lost Farm, at times with persimmon, pro-trajectory and small ball as well as current day equipment.  Fascinating stuff.  I was too tired to replay in the afternoon, but watching Ogilvy play all 18 at Lost Farm was more memorable.

The sub 300-yard holes at Lost Farm are excellent, as are two or three of the par 5's.

Then Tuesday golf at Barnbougle - Dunes.  The Original course.  Hit off at 7.10, and finished close to 12.  We were slower, because we were more tired, took just as many oictures, but also because we replayed more putts.  The greens there are amazing, perhaps over the top for the card and pencil set, but truly amazing.  The front nine is more intimate, with individual holes within the dunes, whilst the back nine is more communal with sweeping views across the other holes.  There is more play on top of dunes on the back nine.

In the afternoon, Ogilvy and Clayton were there playing the back nine.  I saw them play the last five.

The views across the river from the original to the other course are so often there.  Certianly, the 'lost farm' aspect is apparent from the Original's 16th tee, with the flatter bowl area surrounded by dunes (the flatter area houses the practice fairway and the first hole).

We had perfect golfing weather, no umbrellas, lots of sunshine (to my skin's detriment on the Monday - so much for forecasts!).  It really is a great place.  The two courses are very different, with perhaps two holes of Lost Farm able to be switched the the original course, and perhaps one or two holes at the 'original' able to go to 'the other course'.

We flew back to Melbourne, and settled in our lodgings for the rest of the week, down at Sandringham (near the coast and RM, about 500 metres from Clayton's new offices).

Yesterday, it was Kingston Heath.  What a fantastic course.  Fast greens, immaculately presented.  A full set of strategic bunkers everywhere.  To say we had problems on the fast A1 bent greens after two days of fescue is an understatement.  Suddenyl we were confronting subtle borrows which moved a long way!  Kingston Heath has certainly benefited from the heavy rains this winter, probably fluching the soils of problems from the last few drought years.  The greens could have been firmer if they were in heaven, but only because heaven would not have been flooded the preceding weekend (if you recall, the Saturday morning at adjacent Victoria was squee-gee greens day!).

I don't think I have seen a course presented in a better manner for member play.  There are similarities in the quality as there is at Valley Club.  You could golf quite happily as a walking golfe till you are 90, but still have just enough movement in the ground to give changing views and uneven lies.  The Haeth isn't blessed with the 'cathedral-size' ground of Royal Melbourne but it isso good in its total package, from course, to practice facilities to clubhouse.  A truly wonderful club.  I finished golf that day and felt like I still had the energy as well as the interest to go and out play again straight away, even after 4 days of golf.

Today, we are at Royal Melbourne again, possibly East course.  Then Commonwealth tomorrow, with some playing 'retro golf', complete with small balls, persimmon woods and blade irons.  I think there are 12 playing on Friday, but not all are 'retro-ing'.  I have a titleist pro trajectory 90 to use that day, three persimmon woods and a wooden putter.  I hope the greens are fast - that suits the wooden putter.

We have about 20 going to the get-together on Friday night.

We conclude on Sunday morning at RM West - probably an ideal timing for play there, concluding on such a grand course.  Then home Sunday night.

Pictures another time guys.

cheers

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Kevin Pallier

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Golf started at Barnbougle -  Lost Farm.  It wasn't very long before the 'Jizz in my pants' was happening.  Remember, I haven't been to Ireland....

But you have been to Scotland  ;)

Seriously - it sounds like you are having a great time. Which do you prefer overall out of Lost Farm v Barnbougle ?

Glad to hear that Horsham is on it's way back - any chance that you are going to stop off at Forest Resort on the way home ?

Shane Gurnett

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Kevin, just out of interest, where would Barnbougle Dunes find itself amongst the best that Scotland (or maybe Ireland) has to offer?

James Bennett

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Kevin

If I had to nominate a preference after one play of each, and recognising that Lost Farm is adolescent whilst Barnbougle is mature, Barnbougle currently wins 6-4.  I was 'jizzing in my pants' at the loser though, so who cares.  I like green comlexes, so that gives Barnbougle the nod,  If I was a stroke player I might prefer Lost Farm - not that Lost Farm is a stoke player's course, it is just closer to it than Barnbougle, in my (uneducated) opinion.

Re Forest resort - No!  However, would you believe that I have a work-related workshop at Creswick in early december, so I expect I will be playing at Forest Resort then.  I am right eye dominant, so I thought I might close my left eye, think of Jim Nance and have a mint julep.  I will have that 'southern' feeling.  perhaps.....

Benje
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Kevin Pallier

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Kevin, just out of interest, where would Barnbougle Dunes find itself amongst the best that Scotland (or maybe Ireland) has to offer?

Shane

I would put BD within the Top dozen links courses that I've seen in GB&I.

Kevin Pallier

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James

How was the final stage of your trip ?

Any photos ?

Terry Thornton

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Kevin,

I had booked a therapist appointment for James. He left his camera charger back in Adelaide which saw him approaching his RM West debut 'digital free'. Fortunately a trip to Ted's Cameras on our rest day saw him acquire a battery pack. I think he managed to squeeze out 118 photos on the West alone.

Kevin Pallier

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Terry

 ;D

How did you find the trip ? How long did it take you guys to drive home ?

Terry Thornton

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Kevin,

Trip was sensational. Lost Farm was my only first time play of the week. Hadn't been to KH for a couple of years, Rich looked after us very nicely. Great to see some more 'opening up' at Commonwealth, though the main eye candy there was supplied by Shane and David's wardrobe. (I'd forgotten just how well mirrored sunglasses go with a porn star moustache)

Trip home took about 7hrs 45 min

Kevin Pallier

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Terry

Sounds like you had a lot of fun and a great time golfing - I look forward to seeing some pics in due course