Parameters for a GCA to work in Australia

[Brett_Morrissy]

What defining factors will dictate an experienced, accomplished or novice overseas Architect taking a project in Australia?

Clearly a great site or land is one, but after that, travel, money, project type, budget, design brief, type of project (public, private, residential, spirit of golf or combination), length of contract - are all points of interest, how many on here would take a new project in Australia, considering time committment involved? What would be a deal breaker?

What about a renovation project (private, public, etc), would it be viable for an Australian course to hire an architect from overseas, would they take a 10 year project contract to manage a master plan?

BM

[Ally Mcintosh]

If you have a potential project, I'll be with you as soon as I can get a flight...

[Andrew Summerell]

Brett,

Have you looked at what reasons architects like Michael Hurdzan, Robin Nelson, Tom Doak & Martin Hawtree etc. had for working in Australia?

[Mark_F]

What defining factors will dictate an experienced, accomplished or novice overseas Architect taking a project in Australia?

That the developers actually have some money, and believe in paying people that work for them before wasting it on themselves.

[Neil_Crafter]

I was also going to say that having a client willing to pay you for what you do. And then follow-up clients. Not all that easy to find as there are quite a few of us Aussie architects trying to do exactly that, especially for new courses which seem few and far between these days.
Neil

[Mike Nuzzo]

To work in Australia would be great.
The first few visits would be very easy.
The subsequent ones would be tough if the client/course wasn't worth the travel.
Worth the travel = A cool property or direction to make it as good as you can.

It is hard to envision an Australian course that couldn't find an architect locally.

Why would a course?

[Brian Phillips]

What defining factors will dictate an experienced, accomplished or novice overseas Architect taking a project in Australia?

That you like NSW and don't say MacKenzie was an Englishman or bash any of his input to the golf courses of Australia.

 

[Scott Warren]

That you like NSW...

Do you plan to finish the course review, Brian?

[Andrew Summerell]

That you like NSW and don't say MacKenzie was an Englishman or bash any of his input to the golf courses of Australia.

Actually Brian, if you surveyed the Australians on this site, 80% would think that NSW is overrated, including myself. So, liking NSW may not be a good thing.

But we are a belligerent lot, keen to discuss (argue) the merits of golf courses & peoples opinions on them to see if those opinions can be proven.

In other words, if you say something, prove it. It’s a tough place to live, Brian.

This is another reason why repeated work for an overseas architect would be difficult. Masterplans have been stopped & architects fired under the weight of pressure from the ‘Passionate Few'© & ‘The Keepers Of Architectural Integrity'©.


P.S. I’m about to go & copyright those two terms.

[Jaeger Kovich]

Sign me up. If I am building a new course I'm ready to move down under, but I'm staying on to build the place myself. Do they reverse the controls on all the CAT D6's in Aus?

Renovation - coming from the US, you probably wont be making any money if you ever want to see the place and do a good job

[Brett_Morrissy]

If you have a potential project, I'll be with you as soon as I can get a flight...

Ally I am 'fishing' - purely conceptual stages of a potential project: I want to gather some information and look to see how to go about making decisions. Once a Design Brief iwas clearly defined and established, and the brief tendered out - apart fom a great piece of land, why would an architect from GB&I or US travel and commit to a project in Australia.
Then compare that to the GCA's here in Aust and weigh up all the benefits and potential negatives.

Brett,

Have you looked at what reasons architects like Michael Hurdzan, Robin Nelson, Tom Doak & Martin Hawtree etc. had for working in Australia?

Andrew, not really, have spoken a fair bit early on with Greg R about decisions involved with TomD travelling to Barnbougle. That is about all. I have not seen much of the others work in Aust – Hurdzan(did not know he had worked here); Nelson (Maquarie GC – haven’t seen it – what is it like?) and Hawtree  - Reno work? (Sandbelt and Kooyonga renos – is that correct – do you know more?)

Neil/Mark – sorry to hear that there are not more ‘decent’ developers who understand value and remuneration.

Mike, why would Australians not use Australians – that was not the intention of the thread – but to gather info, and in answer to your question – the best person fits the job the best.

Jaegar – I do not believe the controls on a Cat D6 are anything like water going down the sink hole, but the steering wheel is on the other side of most vehicles except bicycles! 