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Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #950 on: November 27, 2015, 04:15:01 PM »
Hickory Hills GC (Springfield, MO) - April 25, 1926 Springfield Missouri Republican

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #951 on: November 27, 2015, 09:03:51 PM »
Sven,
The index is lagging a bit. Hickory Hills can be found at #868.




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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #952 on: November 27, 2015, 09:51:58 PM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #953 on: November 27, 2015, 11:05:29 PM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #954 on: November 28, 2015, 06:12:39 PM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #955 on: November 28, 2015, 06:44:56 PM »

 
Found the 18 hole layout for Portland. Can't remember reading where a group of members
canned the plans an architect provided them and went about laying out a new course by themselves.


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #956 on: November 28, 2015, 07:39:56 PM »

Had these kicking around - don't think I posted them before.




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Anthony Gholz

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #957 on: November 28, 2015, 09:21:26 PM »

Jim:


Love your posts, but noted especially your Diddel drawings up today (Gladstone is wonderful).  He was the architect for the changes to Black River CC, the course I grew up on in Port Huron, Michigan.  He added six and revised 2 others in 1955 (constructed 1956).  My favorite complete Diddel course is also in Michigan: Forest Lake in Bloomfield that I have had many opportunities to play.  Designed in 1926 and revised by him later, it's a first class golden age course with three (of 4) great par-3s.  I could not find any of his drawings either of BR for my book and only recently saw my first actual blueprint of a green construction drawing of his, Kenwood CC.  I understand from Bill A and others that most of his production ended in a dumpster.  Unfortunately the dead for several of my searches.


Your posts typically show the source (thank you for that!), but not for all.  Specifically Pleasant Run says built by AW, but do you know if he designed it as well? or maybe Bill D, as Indianapolis and date might work. Are you a Diddel fan or only come at him from the drawing side?


Thanks. Tony


Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #958 on: November 28, 2015, 09:58:23 PM »
Anthony,
Never played a Diddel course, but you gotta love a guy who was able to spend his entire life creating solid golf courses, could shoot lower than his age when in his '80s, and was Pete Dye's mentor.  ;D [size=78%]   [/size]
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #959 on: November 28, 2015, 10:40:07 PM »

Perseverance best describes Galveston Golf Club. They built a clubhouse that was washed away in a storm which also deposited 1 to 4 feet of sand (probably not too bad) over their grounds.
They built a 'hut'  to use as a temporary clubhouse and then proceeded to scratch out 5 holes for golf. A few years later they had a very nice clubhouse and a 9 hole course, all done with labor from within the club.
They didn't stop there. They relocated around 1918/19 and hired Donald Ross to build them an 18 hole course (NLE). The plan of that one was posted by Joe Bausch and can be found at reply #637. In 1946 another storm convinced them to relocate once again, no more Ross, but still going strong. 

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #960 on: December 03, 2015, 06:21:04 PM »

Juniata Valley Colony Club - from a '20s brochure.

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #961 on: December 03, 2015, 06:28:31 PM »

Fairly extensive irrigation from the '20s
 
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #962 on: December 04, 2015, 06:30:25 PM »
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #963 on: December 10, 2015, 03:34:24 PM »
Schifferdecker GC (Joplin, MO) aka Joplin Municipal GC - original 9 holes by Dewey Longworth

June 25, 1922 Joplin Globe






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"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Anthony Gholz

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #964 on: December 10, 2015, 04:12:47 PM »
Jim:


Awesome find regarding The CCD.  This is the earliest drawing I've seen of Alison's 1926 new course for the CCD.  I will try to overlay the 1948 aerial I have of the course and compare.


I also have a couple Wendell Miller promo letter's from the 20s.  I'll try to find and send to you separately. 


BTW, My screen doesn't get the entire drawing.  Is that just me or can someone tell me how to get it.


Thanks.
Tony

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #965 on: December 11, 2015, 06:08:01 PM »

Ross design - never built

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BCrosby

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #966 on: December 12, 2015, 01:25:53 PM »
Jim -


What is the city, state that appears just below the course name? I can't read it.


Bob

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #967 on: December 12, 2015, 01:35:30 PM »

Bob,

That would be Gainesville Ga.


There's a "Desota St'" and a bit north of Gainesville there is Desoto Falls. Could not find anything else.
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BCrosby

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #968 on: December 12, 2015, 01:58:36 PM »
That's what I thought it said. Interesting. First I have heard of the project. I will do some digging. It's possible the site is now under Lake Lanier.


Bob

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #969 on: December 12, 2015, 02:12:20 PM »
The date is 1932, could be another casualty of the GD.
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Rees Milikin

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #970 on: December 12, 2015, 04:39:08 PM »
That's what I thought it said. Interesting. First I have heard of the project. I will do some digging. It's possible the site is now under Lake Lanier.


Bob


Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #971 on: December 12, 2015, 07:27:43 PM »
There's a 9 hole map of Hinsdale back at #825. Here's the 18 holes:



and a few photos:


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #972 on: December 12, 2015, 07:42:04 PM »

                                                  Looking out over the Wollaston Links - Summer 1919


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #973 on: December 13, 2015, 02:20:51 PM »
Wilmington Golf Club (NLE), built by Ralph Barton in 1928.  The photo is from a copy of the original plan, and both are in the collection at the Wilmington Historical Society, Wilmington Vermont.

Barton used David R. Bates to do the survey and draw this map: 



Julie Moore heads up the WHS and she also produced an article about the course that included descriptions of the holes:





The article mentions Barton at Greenfield CC, and who knew that he also designed Yale!  :o ::)











Sven Nilsen had a thread on Barton a while back that asked a question in the last reply. 
Here are a few enlargements of the greens at WGC, a solo effort by Barton. These, and the hole descriptions, probably answer it. 
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,58054.msg1359136.html#msg1359136



WGC  was a community effort, a company was formed and shares were issued. It was laid out on property owned  by Mr. M. A. Brown . The club bought an old house that belonged to a Mr. Barnard to use as a temporary clubhouse. Their long range plans for a new building, along with the addition of tennis courts and other amenities, never came to be. The club went out of business shortly after it was built due to the depression.
   


After we left the WHS we headed over to the site, but it was pretty soft and muddy so we couldn't go trudging around the property. We got a few snapshots while standing on what we later (halfway home  ::) ) realized was the green for the 9th hole, the reversed Redan. The first photo is looking to the southeast, approximately at the point where the 1st & 8th greens were located, along with the tee box for the Redan. The second photo is looking at the Redan from its low side.




The property today:



All in all, it was a fun day in Wilmington. Thanks go to my friend Peter Barrett for his company and his camera work, and a special thanks to Julie Moore who could not have been more patient with us.

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DMoriarty

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #974 on: December 14, 2015, 12:40:56 PM »
Fascinating stuff, Jim.  Thanks for putting forth the effort.
Golf history can be quite interesting if you just let your favorite legends go and allow the truth to take you where it will.
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