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Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #575 on: December 15, 2013, 02:06:18 AM »
Finally, 1969 plans for an 18-hole par 3 course in West Richfield, Ohio which, if I'm not mistaken, is the Old Pine Golf Course that has since been converted to a longer 9-holes course...
























Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #576 on: December 17, 2013, 12:14:29 PM »
Adding in the Colt plans for Bloomfield Hills provided by Phil Young.

"I've attached a photo of the 1924 plan hanging in the 2nd floor hallway of the clubhouse. It was used by a sprinkler company to verlay a design for an automatic sprinkler system. What no one realized is that it was actually a copy of the Colt design drawing."

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #577 on: February 10, 2014, 05:23:26 PM »
Use the link if you'd like to enlarge this map.
 
http://tinyurl.com/kts3qv3

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #578 on: February 12, 2014, 05:14:17 PM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #579 on: February 12, 2014, 05:34:43 PM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #580 on: February 12, 2014, 05:47:51 PM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #581 on: February 12, 2014, 08:51:36 PM »



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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #582 on: February 12, 2014, 08:58:20 PM »
Didn't know whether to post his here or on the recent thread about courses impacted by road crossings.  :)

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #583 on: February 14, 2014, 03:15:29 PM »
Highland was in CT.



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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #584 on: February 14, 2014, 03:44:27 PM »
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #585 on: February 15, 2014, 11:38:12 AM »
RAN

This is an invaluable thread.

Please figure a way to make it one of your categories, like "in my opinion" and "courses by country"

THANKS

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #586 on: February 15, 2014, 12:08:10 PM »
RAN

This is an invaluable thread.

Please figure a way to make it one of your categories, like "in my opinion" and "courses by country"

THANKS

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That's a good idea Pat.


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #587 on: February 15, 2014, 12:23:48 PM »
I wonder why there were so many road crossings on some of these early 20th century courses? - there was more raw land available 110 years ago.
 

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Patrick_Mucci

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #588 on: February 15, 2014, 06:19:19 PM »
Jim,

That's an interesting question.

I think the answer may lie in golf's earlier life in the U.K.


Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #589 on: February 15, 2014, 06:40:57 PM »
This course up in Norman Rockwell land remains on the same piece of property although the routing has changed. For instance, #11 on the map is today's #1, now a dogleg left. The 18th green is in a similar location, but the tee is next to the old #1 green. That site is now the 17th green. There are some others as well.
 





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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #590 on: February 15, 2014, 06:50:17 PM »
Jim,

That's an interesting question.

I think the answer may lie in golf's earlier life in the U.K.



That, and I'd guess lots of the roads were dirt with a low car count. 
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #591 on: February 15, 2014, 09:25:59 PM »
Jim,

Because golf was in it's infancy, I don't think that roads were viewed as an impediment or negative.
I think that they were just accepted.

Look at some of the early courses like NLGA, Shinnecock, Westhampton, Southampton and GCGC, they all had roads going through them.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #592 on: February 17, 2014, 02:50:15 PM »
As Mike Cirba reminded me in an email:

"During the earliest years of golf in the US, roadways were treated as hazards under the rules of golf.
When Richard Francis wrote in 1950 that they thought the road (Ardmore Avenue) would make a good hazard, he was being quite literal."


Seems like a good point to add.

A couple more, w/roads.  :)
 


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #593 on: February 18, 2014, 07:57:47 AM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #594 on: February 20, 2014, 09:17:37 PM »
Mark,
Here's one for you.  ;)

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Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #595 on: February 25, 2014, 12:32:48 AM »
Jim, thanks for all of your contributions!  I have updated the index.  Was the Walnut Cliff course for Columbus CC in Columbus, OH.  Similarly, is Westchester GC in Westchester, MA?

Mark Saltzman

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #596 on: February 25, 2014, 12:50:07 AM »
Royal Wellington Golf Club, Hutt, New Zealand


Mark Saltzman

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #597 on: February 25, 2014, 12:50:36 AM »
Newcastle Golf Club, Newcastle, Australia


Mark Saltzman

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #598 on: February 25, 2014, 12:51:33 AM »
Arikikapakapa Golf Course, Rotorua, New Zealand


Mark Saltzman

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #599 on: February 25, 2014, 12:52:32 AM »
Paraparaumu Beach Golf Club, Paraparaumu Beach, New Zealand