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Steve Curry

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Historical construction question
« on: January 27, 2010, 11:15:10 AM »
I scanned and sent to my green committee page 103 of The Parks of Musselburgh which has pictures of the construction of Shuttle Meadow and one member asked what is in the bags on the wagons??

Cheers,
Steve
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 11:18:07 AM »
Seed, lots of seed!

Steve Curry

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 02:19:38 PM »
Hi Bill,

My thought was manure.

Thanks,
Steve

Bill_McBride

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 02:21:54 PM »
I'd have thought the manure in those days would come in bulk!

Niall C

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 02:24:02 PM »
I think you'll find, if you look closely at those photos, that the "manure production units" are actually in front of the carts

Steve Curry

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 02:29:11 PM »
That looks like the bulk delivery of the day, but I am not sure.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 03:35:03 PM »
Steve,
I'm going with peat moss.
Seems like that would be enough seed to plant Rhode Island, and I don't know of manure was so carefully dried and bagged back then.
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Dick Kirkpatrick

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 03:40:57 PM »
Stolens.

Steve Curry

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 03:52:26 PM »
Hi Dick,

I thought of that also but wasn't sure if they would have bagged them?

Thanks,
Steve

Ian Larson

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 04:20:57 PM »
Yeah I would say it's burlap bags of stolens. Even to this day if you order a small order of stolons they come in burlap bags. And if it is stolons that picture below makes total sense if that was the stolon crew going down across the width of a fairway laying stolons.

Bill_McBride

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Dick Kirkpatrick

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 05:04:50 PM »
Bill;

Not a good definition for stolons as when used to propograte new fairway or greens.  The stolons and rhizomes they are speaking of are, however what they use to make the product we are speaking of here.

Back in the day (your time) some of the popular strains of bent grasses and bermudas were and still are not availabel as seed.

They used to harvest the sod from existing plots, wash it completely clean of all soil, then put it through a chopping device and bag it up (as in the pictures) and ship it all over the world.

I am having a senior moment as to the name of the firm in Chicago, but they were the largest supplier in North America.

I purchased stolons from them for a project we did in Manotick (near Ottawa) Ontario back in 1961

I think stolonizing fairways is still common when propogating new fairways in the southern USA

Dick Kirkpatrick

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 08:14:46 PM »

Lester George

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 08:24:11 PM »

Could be fill material or manure.

Lester

Bill_McBride

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 10:51:08 PM »
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« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 04:31:00 AM by Bill_McBride »

Alister Matheson

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2010, 02:10:49 AM »
They look like very hard workers !  GRAFTERS

This delivery must be their food rations for the week   ;D    lol
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 08:36:32 AM »
Steve,
Does the club have construction records, that might offer a clue.
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Steve Curry

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Re: Historical construction question
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2010, 09:14:30 AM »
Hi Jim,

That is on my slate for the next fe weeks, before the product starts growing. ;)

Best,
Steve

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