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Chris Flamion

Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« on: January 17, 2010, 05:55:41 PM »
So a couple of guys that I play golf with regularly have decided to try to put together a Golf trip for about 8 guys.  Unfortunately they decided that it sounded great in theory, but have no desire to do the leg work and put it all together.  I am currently in the initial planning phase and have the lead contender for destination of Lawsonia with an arrival Friday mid morning and leaving Sunday Mid-afternoon.   Tentative date is the weekend after Memorial day or the one after that, this is really the only 2 weekends that work.

What I am asking for is some housing ideas, I was thinking of seeing how many people want to go then hitting up VRBO and seeing if we can get a deal.  Being the first time to put this together I am completely open to other suggestions

Is there anything else in the area worth playing from a Green Lake base camp or should we just play the Links and Woodlands repeatedly?

Is there anything in between Chicago and Lawsonia worth stopping off to play?  Erin Hills comes to mind, but I don't know how the reception will be from the rest about a couple hundred dollar round.

Any other destinations that are about the same drive time from Chicago that are also worth the trip?

What else am I missing?  Housing, golf, and a list of food options are the biggest things I can think of so if someone else has a must plan well in advance I could use it.


Mac Plumart

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 06:01:50 PM »
The American Club/Kohler/Whisiting Straits, etc is only about 30 minutes away.

Stay there...all will be taken care of.
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

J_ Crisham

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 06:19:32 PM »
Chris,  The Heidel house has nice rooms and acceptable food. Good views of Green Lake. Golf wise you have Tuscumbia and Mascuotin which are good but far from great courses. For my money I would play Lawsonia Links as many times as you can. The Woodlands once or twice is enough. Try to contact Dan Moore as he is the Savant of all things Lawsonia.    Jack

Will Peterson

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 07:16:15 PM »
If you went over to Rockford and then up you would go by a number of decent places to play.

Janesville - Riverside - great muni built in the 20's.  Should be realitively inexpensive.

Madison - Bergamont - Andy North track south of Madison with good rates during the week.
              -University Ridge - RTJ II design.  Should be around $75-90 and is worth a visit.
              -Hawks Landing - next door to U Ridge and in the $65-70 range.  I think its the worst of the three.
              If you have some connections the best design in Madison is Maple Bluff.

Wisconsin Dells - Wild Rock - New Hurdzon / Fry that is a great track. 
                       -Trapper's Turn - Andy North course with 27.  Similar to Bergamont in design with some unique features.  Fun course  to play once, but not an architectual gem.
                       -Chirstmas Mountain - 27 holes.  When I played it there was only 18, with an old 9 and a new 9.  I heard that they added 9 similar to the new one to make an 18 hole course with an extra 9.  Should not be real expensive, and the new 9 I played is worth a visit.

If you go the other way up through Milwakee most of the good courses are private.

Kenosha has Strawberry Creek.  I really liked this  course.
In Milwaukee, there are a bunch of old clubs that range form good to amazing.  Milwaukee CC is the best with Blue Mound second.  Westmoor, Merrill Hills, North Hills, Tripoli, and Brynwood are all good tracks, but private.
Brown Deer is public and worth a visit.  I believe that the Bog has public play.

Chuck Brown

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 07:31:22 PM »
Chris,  The Heidel house has nice rooms and acceptable food. Good views of Green Lake. Golf wise you have Tuscumbia and Mascuotin which are good but far from great courses. For my money I would play Lawsonia Links as many times as you can. The Woodlands once or twice is enough. Try to contact Dan Moore as he is the Savant of all things Lawsonia.    Jack

I stayed at the Heidl House last summer when I was playing Lawsonia.  It was nice.  There is a rental house right at Lawsonia that would be great for a group of about 8 guys, but I don't know what the deal with it is.

There is an old golf course across the street from the Heidl House; Tuscumbia.  I haven't played it.  I would have, but for my accomodating some others' schedules.  It has all the appearances of one of the many turn-of the-last-century resort courses built around 1900, and not much changed since.  Tuscumbia is about 6,000 yards and I thought it looked nicely maintained for a course like that.  I think I'd just as readily play that one, as the Woodlands course at Lawsonia.  The Links at Lawsonia is, to my mind, one of the greatest pleasures in the entire midwest.

One othere idea for you is to go to Madison on your way to Green Lake and play one of the courses there -- Blackhawk, or University Ridge or one of the others.  And I totally defer to the Kohler suggestion, but that's a destination all by  itself.

Or Erin Hills!  Can't forget that one!
« Last Edit: January 17, 2010, 07:33:25 PM by Chuck Brown »

John Mayhugh

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 07:35:33 PM »
The American Club/Kohler/Whisiting Straits, etc is only about 30 minutes away.

Stay there...all will be taken care of.

30 minutes away??  By car?  Even if Kohler wasn't 60+ miles away from Lawsonia, why would one pay that much money to stay at a golf resort and play somewhere else?  

Chuck Brown

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 07:47:40 PM »
The American Club/Kohler/Whisiting Straits, etc is only about 30 minutes away.

Stay there...all will be taken care of.

30 minutes away??  By car?  Even if Kohler wasn't 60+ miles away from Lawsonia, why would one pay that much money to stay at a golf resort and play somewhere else?  

Right.  I'd ask the same questions.

PCCraig

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 07:52:20 PM »
Chris-

I was just up that way this past Fall. I would highly recommend a b&b called the McConnell Inn...they have a website and its easily found via google. It's a cool renovated victorian house with about (I think) 7 or 8 rooms that can be rented out. Plus they cook a mean breakfast in the morning. Anyway it's worth checking out if you don't want to play $200+ a night for the Heidel House.

As for the golf I would just do 36+ a day up at Lawsonia...the Links really is that good and fun, while the Woodlands is still pretty good. I wouldn't bother with the other nearby courses in Green Lake.

On the drive there or back you could stop in Madison and play University Ridge...or stop by Milwaukee and play brown deer park.
H.P.S.

Mac Plumart

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 08:23:11 PM »
Ok...saw it's 60 miles away.

I thought he said he was going to be there 3 days and he wants to play Lawsonia...that is one day, right?

Doesn't Kohler have 4 great courses?

Anyway, just a thought as that is what I am going to do when I go...stay at The American Club/Kohler play all 4 of those courses and hit Lawsonia as well.

Take it or leave it...no sweat...as long as you have fun...that is the key!
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

J_ Crisham

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2010, 08:33:28 PM »
Ok...saw it's 60 miles away.

I thought he said he was going to be there 3 days and he wants to play Lawsonia...that is one day, right?

Doesn't Kohler have 4 great courses?

Anyway, just a thought as that is what I am going to do when I go...stay at The American Club/Kohler play all 4 of those courses and hit Lawsonia as well.

Take it or leave it...no sweat...as long as you have fun...that is the key!
Mac,  Kohler has 2 great course , 2 OK courses. The rate on the great courses is over the top in my opinion. Also the room rates at the American Club are pretty steep in peak season. If you haven't been to Lawsonia and played the Links it is arguably top 3 in Wis and definitely the best value.Also another course not mentioned is the Bull at Pinehurst Farms, a very good but not great course-also not cheap as Nicklaus designs generally aren't.           Jack

Mac Plumart

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2010, 08:40:50 PM »
Good information Jack...thanks!!!
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Chris Flamion

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 08:53:41 PM »
Thanks for all the great suggestions...

Wanted to add that all of us(or at least 6 of us) either just had a kid or just bought a house so I was trying to keep it cheap, hence while Kohler is a great destination it was also complete written off.

I currently have a house that sleep 8(if you count 2 blow up beds) for a total of 115 a head for 3 nights total(aka 38 a night), quick research says that is pretty good.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2010, 09:05:31 PM by Chris Flamion »

John Mayhugh

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 09:00:47 PM »
Ok...saw it's 60 miles away.

I thought he said he was going to be there 3 days and he wants to play Lawsonia...that is one day, right?

Doesn't Kohler have 4 great courses?

Anyway, just a thought as that is what I am going to do when I go...stay at The American Club/Kohler play all 4 of those courses and hit Lawsonia as well.

Take it or leave it...no sweat...as long as you have fun...that is the key!

It sounds as though you haven't been there yourself?  If that's the case, a disclaimer is surely warranted when giving travel advice.

Adam Clayman

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 09:02:41 PM »
Norton's on the lake is a great place for food and drink.

115 a night per head is not the cheapest you can do. Is it?
 
There are plenty of motels around that should be wccptable and nowhere near that much unless you are that close to eithe rMemorial Day or the fourth of July.

The Links is great and while the newest nine is the worst. I'd seriously consider going around the Links as much as possible.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Chris Flamion

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2010, 09:08:19 PM »
Adam, no it is 115 per person total over 3 nights, or 38+ per night.  That post is now edited to make it easier to understand.

PCCraig

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2010, 09:58:44 PM »
Adam, no it is 115 per person total over 3 nights, or 38+ per night.  That post is now edited to make it easier to understand.

Chris-

Sounds like a great deal. It will be a great low-key (and cheap) buddies golf trip.

I second Adam's post on Norton's...great local bar and hang out spot for after golf.

Have fun!
H.P.S.

RJ_Daley

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010, 11:12:52 PM »
Just in case you get rained out or can't tee off until later, or even after an early morning round and you need a great big brunch meal before and afternoon meal, go 10 minutes from Lawsonia to Ripon on the main drag hwy 23 west side of downtown, to the Red Apple diner.   The place should be on that TV show "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives" because it has a great breakfast for a rediculously low price.  It is run by an old Greek gentleman and it is fantastic for breakfasts.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

As for secondary economically priced, decent courses in that general area, Elk Hart Lake, Quit Qui Oc is 27 holes with the front 9 being a museum piece designed by Tom Bendelow.  It is an enjoyable course with a reasonable price and 3 interesting 9 hole loops.

http://www.quitquioc.com/

Also, if you are going the I-43 route and want to avoid the huge $$$ at Kohler, and just want to play a decent, not notable nor expensive course, you could try Wispering Springs above Fond du Lac, next to the women's prison at Tachedah, on hwy 23..


http://www.whisperingspringsgolf.com/golf/proto/whisperingspringsgolf/course/course.htm

Another Bendelow 9 with a Billy Sixty second nine, and another bit of a museum piece is Old Hickory in Beaver Dam.  It was good enough to host a Wisconsin State Am a couple years ago.

http://www.oldhickorycc.com/

All open to public and reasonably priced

« Last Edit: January 17, 2010, 11:16:12 PM by RJ_Daley »
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Phil McDade

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2010, 09:20:47 AM »
Chris:

Da' mayor (RJ) is full of good advice, particularly breakfast at the Red Apple. ;)

As a Madison-area resident, I'm not sure there is anything worth stopping off here for a round, because it would mean one less round at the links at Lawsonia. URidge is not worth a detour, in my estimation. (If you have access to privates such as Blackhawk, Maple Bluff, or Nakoma, I'd amend that statement...)

What is worth playing (and arguably not a detour, but on the way, if you go that way) is Spring Valley CC, in Salem WI (just north of Antioch IL, in between Lake Geneva and Kenosha), a below-the-radar Langford that's not in the league of Lawsonia, but has some terrific holes and would give you a real sense of what to expect at Lawsonia. A completely bunkerless 18-hole course that at @ $20 is maybe the single best golfing value in Wisconsin.

http://www.springvalleyccsalem.com/

Sounds like your house is a good deal, but if for some reason it falls through or you're still looking, the Green Lake Conf. Center, where Lawsonia is located, has a bunch of housing options (no alcohol, wink, wink...). See: http://www.glcc.org/glcc/accommodations/accommodations.htm

And I'd second RJ's suggestion of Old Hickory CC, in Beaver Dam (which is actually on the way -- Hwy 73 runs through BDam and heads north to Green Lake), profiled here:

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,36792.0/

Tuscumbia, right in Green Lake, is a museum piece, one of the oldest 18-hole courses in the state, narrow fairways lined by huge trees, and tiny greens -- interesting for what it is, with a neat old clubhouse. Right across the street from the Heidel House. Also, the Goose Blind in Green Lake is decent pub food with an OK selection of beers.


Tim Nugent

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2010, 10:00:15 AM »
Lawsonia has a decent breakfast and range so I would start there, then go over to Tuscumbia for an afternoon round.  Lawsonia is dry - no alcohol served if that is a concern.  Tuscumbia actually has a new clubhouse w/a pretty good restraunt and bar overlooking the first hole.  The course is really a throwback which began to do upgrading befor ethe economy went south.  New irrigation, new super from Chicago, many trees cut on front nine (still needed on the back) and a nine hole par 3 built where the range/tennis was.
Unlike Lawsonia, which hasn't really been touched, Tuscumbia had alot of trees planted.  As these grew the old bunkers were jail and they built new ones, closer in to the fairways.  But, since the ground is sand, they just let the old ones grass-over.  So the architecual junky can still find and examine them - they are pretty cool.  Hopefully, some day they will cut the ret of the trees back and reotrse the old bunkers. Some of the green pads are the old square greens, which they had been reclaiming from the mowed circle greens they had evolved into.
For those that haven't been there in a while, the noth entrance was eliminated and #2 tee moved back and the entrance is now south across from Heidel House.
Goose Blind is a good barn-style pub that has good pub food.
Coasting is a downhill process

Mark Smolens

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 01:23:51 PM »
Isn't Erin Hills still going to be closed until later in the summer?

Jud_T

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2010, 05:15:39 PM »
Kohler is pretty pricey and the courses are somewhat overrated in my opinion, as is the food.  The accommodations and spa are nice.  I'd play 36 at Erin Hills and try to book the rooms over the clubhouse, then head to Green Lake for 54 holes at Lawsonia Links.  Heidel House is fine...  If you feel you must do Kohler, I'd stick with Whistling Straights and the River course, definitely skip the Irish IMHO....Each place probably requires staying there as they aren't that close...Wild Rock is supposed to be pretty good in the Dells, but I wouldn't miss a round on Lawsonia Links to play it....
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

PThomas

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2010, 05:18:47 PM »
Isn't Erin Hills still going to be closed until later in the summer?

it might not open at all next year
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

cary lichtenstein

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 05:23:06 PM »
What part of Chicag o does your group come from?
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Chris Flamion

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 06:33:58 PM »
Cary we are leaving from the Western suburbs, I presume, most of us live out this way and the ones who don't normally hang out here anyway.

Thanks everyone for all the help, I think I have the itinerary more or less set with the exception of food, but that can be a quick thing to add on towards the end.

Jud_T

Re: Buddy Trip Help, Chicago to Lawsonia
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2010, 06:53:21 PM »
Looks like Erin Hills will be closed till August 1st FYI...
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

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