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Patrick Hodgdon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #450 on: January 13, 2010, 10:29:16 AM »
Assuming Kalen had til 10am so I'll take:
#18 SFGC Par 5 (and the drinks in the locker room after)
#10 Bandon Dunes
#9 Lahinch Par 4

Trade #13 at Lahinch for Sand Hills #13 Par 3 210
Did you know World Woods has the best burger I've ever had in my entire life? I'm planning a trip back just for another one between rounds.

"I would love to be a woman golfer." -JC Jones

Kalen Braley

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #451 on: January 13, 2010, 10:40:20 AM »
Sorry for the delay guys...went to bed thinking Eric wouldn't make his picks until this morning.

My picks are:

Spyglass Hill - #4 - Par 4 - 360 yards




Wine Valley - #5 - Par 4 - 420 yards .....the River of Sand hole!!






Gozzer Ranch - #8 - Par 5 - 520 yards.




Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #452 on: January 13, 2010, 11:07:26 AM »
Jordan is up...

ROUND SEVEN
163. JC Jones: Greywalls - No. 9, 389 Yds, Par 4; Crystal Downs - No. 10, 390 Yds, Par 4; Maidstone - No. 7, 336 Yds, Par 4
164. Matt Bosela: Cruden Bay - No. 7, 385 Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 11, 165 Yds, Par 3; Royal Dornoch - No. 17, 405 Yds, Par 4
165. Wyatt Halliday: Riviera - No. 9, 458 Yds, Par 4; Banff Springs - No. 12, 547 Yds, Par 5; Bandon Trails - No. 13, 401 Yds, Par 4
166. Ronald Montesano: Bethpage Black - No. 2, 389 Yds, Par 4; Pacific Dunes - No. 10, 205 Yds, Par 3; Dunes Club - No. 8, 513 Yds, Par 5
167. Tom Doak: St. George's - No. 2, 443 Yds, Par 4; Royal West Norfolk - No. 8, 485 Yds, Par 5; Friars Head - No. 9, 390 Yds, Par 4
168. Brad Fleischer: Royal Adelaide - No. 11, 386 Yds, Par 4; Kauri Cliffs - No. 17, 472 Yds, Par 4; Valderrama - No. 10, 389 Yds, Par 4
169. Cristian Willaert: Morfontaine - No. 7, 430 Yds, Par 4; Royal St Georges - No. 2, 420 Yds, Par 4; Haagsche - No. 15, 395 Yds, Par 4
170. Eric Smith: Royal St Georges - No. 3, 210 Yds, Par 3; Prairie Dunes - No. 13, 445 Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 16, 540 Yds, Par 5
171. Kalen Braley: Spyglass Hill - No. 4, 360 Yds, Par 4; Wine Valley - No. 5, 420 Yds, Par 4; Gozzer Ranch - No. 8, 520 Yds, Par 5
172. Patrick Hodgdon: San Francisco - No. 18, 524 Yds, Par 5; Bandon Dunes - No. 10, 362 Yds, Par 4; Lahinch - No. 9, 400 Yds, Par 4
173. Tim Bert: Bandon Trails - No. 4, 408 Yds, Par 4; Bandon Dunes - No. 11, 384 Yds, Par 4; Yale - No. 12, 400 Yds, Par 4
174. Jordan Wall
175. Deucie Bies
176. Jud Tigerman
177. Sean Arble
178. Robert Ball
179. Chip Gaskins
180. John Mayhugh
181. Mac Plumart
182. Richard Choi
183. George Freeman
184. Jim Thornton
185. Alex Miller
186. Jim Colton
187. Carl Nichols
188. Matthew Hunt
189. JNC_Lyon

Kalen Braley

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #453 on: January 13, 2010, 11:11:58 AM »
Jim,

I'd like to make a substitution on one of my prior pics, can I do that now?

Thanks,

Kalen

Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #454 on: January 13, 2010, 11:20:29 AM »
Jim,

I'd like to make a substitution on one of my prior pics, can I do that now?

Thanks,

Kalen

Do it now or forever hold your peace (supposed to do it when you pick, but you just picked so it's cool).

Kalen Braley

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #455 on: January 13, 2010, 11:36:33 AM »
Thanks Jim,

I'd like to swap out picks for my 18th hole...

Instead of Half Moon Bay #18, I would like:

Lakota Canyon - #18 - Par 5 - 532 yards


Jordan Wall

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #456 on: January 13, 2010, 12:26:04 PM »
just woke up...

#12 Shoreacres  130 yards par 3
#9 Garden City 325 yards par 4
#8 Fishers Island 470 yards par 4

Deucie Bies

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #457 on: January 13, 2010, 12:32:05 PM »
#1 Ballybunion Old Par 4 392 yards
#9 Royal St. George's Par 4 385 yards
#14 Baltimore Country Club Five Farms Par 5 608 yards

Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #458 on: January 13, 2010, 12:38:38 PM »
Jud:
1. Yale #17  435 yd. par 4
2. Lost Dunes #14  375 yd. par 4
3. Lawsonia #5  485 yd. par 5

Sean:
#7 Pennard 351 par 4
#10 Cavendish 422 par 4
#18 Kington 285ish par 4

Robert:

Victoria Club 4th hole 556 yds par 5
CC of Detroit 10th hole 569 yds par 5
Desert Forest 13th hole 440 yds par 4

Chip:
Maidstone #8, 150 yards
Mayacama #15, Par 5, 535 yards
Ballyneal #10, 508 yards, par 4

Chip has been DQ'd for taking one of my picks.  Don't cross the commish!

John M. is up.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #459 on: January 13, 2010, 01:04:37 PM »
Yale, 8th, par 4, 415 yds
Belvedere, 11th, par 4, 390 yds
Capilano, 18th, par 5, 555 yds


JC Jones

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #460 on: January 13, 2010, 01:07:22 PM »

Belvedere, 11th, par 4, 390 yds


This is a man who appreciates good architecture.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #461 on: January 13, 2010, 01:13:47 PM »
Wow, Chip, that's rough...better luck next time.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #462 on: January 13, 2010, 01:14:02 PM »
Richard is up...

181. Mac Plumart: Sea Island (Seaside) - No. 13, 387 Yds, Par 4; Golf Club of GA (Lakeside) - No. 11, 607 Yds, Par 5; Gozzer Ranch - No. 12, 364 Yds, Par 4

George Freeman

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #463 on: January 13, 2010, 01:14:05 PM »

Belvedere, 11th, par 4, 390 yds


This is a man who appreciates good architecture.

Agreed!

Also, I'm surprised it took this long for Maidstone #8 to leave the board...
Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

Richard Choi

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #464 on: January 13, 2010, 01:25:47 PM »
My picks...

Plainfield #11, Par 3, 148 yards - The most fun AND scary short par 3 I have ever played.



Challenge at Manele #12, Par 3, 202 yards - the picture says it all.



Chambers Bay #14, Par 4, 521 yards - the best hole on the course and one of the best par 4's around.


George Freeman

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #465 on: January 13, 2010, 01:31:24 PM »
Mid Ocean Club #5, par 4, 433 yds

Marquette - Greywalls #7, par 4, 489 yds

The Country Club - Brookline #11, par 5, 515 yds
Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

Jim Thornton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #466 on: January 13, 2010, 01:35:24 PM »
First, a switch:

I am replacing my current 1st hole (Prestwick, 346 yards, Par 4) with the 1st at Merion (East), 350 yards, Par 4

My next 3 picks are:

1.  Pasatiempo, No. 11, 392 yards, Par 4
2.  Friar's Head, No. 7, 540 yards, Par 5
3.  Muirfield, No. 13, 180 yards, Par 3

Alex Miller on the clock.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2010, 01:44:45 PM by Jim Thornton »

Jim Thornton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #467 on: January 13, 2010, 01:45:23 PM »
I inadvertently listed my Par 5 at FH as the 4th hole.....I have now corrected it to be the 7th hole.

Alex Miller

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #468 on: January 13, 2010, 02:08:24 PM »
I will take:

AGNC # 18, can't believe its still on the board when you consider the history that's taken place on that green. It's also a good golf hole.
Old Mac # 17, Finally I get to have a channel hole!
and Sand Hills #4, brute of a par 4

Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #469 on: January 13, 2010, 03:20:06 PM »
I'm switching my 6th hole (Cape Kidnappers) for the 6th at Carnoustie (570 yds, par 5)

With my picks, I'm going with:

5th Hole - Blackwolf Run (River) - 427 yds, par 4
14th Hole - World Woods (Pine Barrens) - 547 yds, par 5 (a.k.a. the Hole that Jefe Made 10 On)
15th Hole - Kingsbarns - 212 yds, par 3

JNC Lyon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #470 on: January 13, 2010, 05:03:35 PM »
My final six picks:

3 at Long Shadow, 570 yards, Par 5
6 at Country Club of Buffalo, 175 yards, Par 3
7 at Fox Chapel, 300 Yards, Par 4
9 at Oak Hill West, 365 yards, Par 4
12 at Kiawah Island (Ocean), 450 Yards Par 4
15 at Leatherstocking, 470 yards, Par 5


These final picks are all from courses that I have played.
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

JNC Lyon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #471 on: January 13, 2010, 05:20:39 PM »
I felt compelled to write up my list of courses, describing the merits of each hole and discussing why I choose the course that I did.  The front nine description is below.  I will add the back nine later.

1) Yeamans Hall, 420, Par 4: the perfect mid-length par four opener.  The wide fairway gives the player some leeway on the first swing of the day while still forcing him to make a decision.  The entrance road to the rustic clubhouse crosses the fairway just beyond the landing area.  This feature adds to the hole's charm.  The green is a wild Raynor Double Plateau.  A thrilling start to any round.

2) Garden City, 135, Par 3: a classic short par three over an old quarry.  Emmet routes this hole perfectly, and it is particularly difficult in a crosswind.

3) Long Shadow, 570, Par 5: Mike Young's classic in Georgia contains a phenomenal set of par fives.  The third is the simplest of the four.  It is also the most timeless.  The player must fight the slope of the land and his inner demons to place his second shot as far left as possible.  Such placement is the only way to create scoring opportunities.

4) Royal Melbourne (West), 470, Par 4: The first of many half-par holes on my dream 18.  The hole features a classic over-the-rise tee shot.  Then, the hole swings to the right to create a demanding approach.  MacKenzie at his best.

5) Merion (East), 490, Par 4: Merion's 5th is a true sleeper hole on a legendary golf course.  The hole was my favorite in Walker Cup actin because it so simple, completely natural, yet so maddening.  Timeless strategy abounds on the tee shot.  The green has to be one of the hardest in the world for a hole of such length.

6) CC of Buffalo, 175, Par 3: A totally unique Ross par three.  He built a monstrous green site 20 feet up from the floor of a limestone quarry.  The green is severely tilted from back to front.  Any miss will leave the golfer scrambling for a bogey.

7) Fox Chapel, 300, Par 4: My layout is laden with short fours, and this one is one of my favorites. It is a very neat variation on the Alps Hole.  The golfer can either challenge the left fairway bunkers with a layup or fire a driver at the green.  Long grass and trouble await the golfer who is too bold.  Raynor's green is a wild one and slopes from front to back.

8. Oakmont, 250, Par 3: This hole is exactly what a long par three should be.  Every golfer can be as timid or aggressive as he prefers.

9) Oak Hill (West), 365, Par 4: This green is the only non-Ross complex on the course.  Nevertheless, the wild terrain and the green's multiple sections make the hole completely unique.  I have played this hole for more than ten years, and it only gets better with age.

Now the Back Nine:

10) Royal Melbourne (West), 310, Par 4: A quintessential short par four.  The hole is very tempting from the tee for the long hitter.  However, like my seventh hole, there is also strategy for the shorter hitter.  No matter how far a player drives it, he should hug the left for the best angle to the green for the second shot.

11) Shinnecock Hills, 150, Par 3: I love short par threes, so I included two on my list.  This hole is one of the most devilish of them all and has been termed "the shortest par five in the world."  Miguel Angel Jimenez recorded an 11 here in the 2004 US Open.

12) Kiawah Island (Ocean), 450, Par 4: Like many holes at the Ocean Course, this one can be brute but also leaves some margin for error.  The long par four cascades downhill and concludes at a fantastic green site along the Kiawah River inlet.

13) Oak Hill (East), 600, Par 5: This hole constitutes the perfect three shot hole.  Off the tee, the player must decide how close he will drive it to the creek that crosses the fairway.  The second shot forces players to flirt with the right fairway bunkers to gain an unobstructed view to the green.  The green is first-rate and sits in a natural amphitheater.  The hole is never a slog.  Rather, its grand scale and its three testing shots provide a great test for pros and amateurs alike.

14) Cape Kidnappers, 330, Par 4: A beautiful clifftop rendition of the Road Hole.  This hole is simple while being dramatic and elegant at the same time.

15) Leatherstocking, 470, Par 5: This Devereux Emmet course in Cooperstown, NY is a true hidden gem.  The 15th makes great use of the right to left terrain.  The punchbowl green is elusive and very fun from inside of 75 yards.

16) Pine Valley, 450, Par: A very underrated hole on the nation's most cherished layouts.  Joshua Crane wanted to change the hole dramatically.  However, the sandy waste area on the right and the pond interact to produce effortless strategy.  The green complex is also magnificent.

17) National Golf Links of America, 360, Par 4: The great Leven Hole.  The last of my short fours, this hole has numerous options for all levels of golfers.  What more could one ask of a penultimate hole?

18) Seminole, 415, Par 4: A classic dogleg finisher along the Atlantic Ocean.  Was there an architect better at building finishing holes than Donald Ross?

Note: I have only seen ten of these holes in person.  Someday, I would love to see each of these holes in person.  However, I must, for now, resign myself to what I have read in the great books and on this website.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2010, 08:13:23 PM by JNC_Lyon »
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #472 on: January 13, 2010, 06:05:59 PM »
Here are my final picks:

Swap #15 Kingsbarns for #15 Bandon Dunes, 163 - Par 3

2. Bandon Trails - 214 Yds, Par 3
10. Old Macdonald - 420 Yds, Par 4
16. Blackwolf Run (River) - 620 Yds, Par 5


Here is my course: 6897 Yds, Par 71
1. Shinnecock - 391 Yds, Par 4
2. Bandon Trails - 214 Yds, Par 3
3. Old Macdonald - 375 Yds, Par 4
4. NGLA - 195 Yds, Par 3
5. Blackwolf Run (River) - 427 Yds, Par 4
6. Carnoustie - 570 Yds, Par 5
7. Ballyneal - 352 Yds, Par 4
8. Cypress Point - 369 Yds, Par 4
9. Shinnecock - 411 Yds, Par 4
10. Old Macdonald - 420 Yds, Par 4
11. Essex County - 175 Yds, Par 3
12. Cypress Point - 404 Yds, Par 4
13. Pine Valley - 486 Yds, Par 4
14. World Woods (Pine Barrens) - 547 Yds, Par 5 (aka the Hole that Jefe Made 10 On)
15. Bandon Dunes - 163 Yds, Par 3
16. Blackwolf Run (River) - 620 Yds, Par 5
17. Crystal Downs - 311 Yds, Par 4
18. Sand Hills - 467 Yds, Par 4


Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #473 on: January 13, 2010, 06:23:16 PM »
Alex needs to make a 13th hole pick but he'll fill it in later.

Carl can make his remaining 7 picks at any time.

Jim T. is on the clock.


ROUND EIGHT
190. JNC_Lyon: Oak Hill (West) - No. 9, 365 Yds, Par 4; Kiawah Island (Ocean) - No. 12, 450 Yds, Par 4; Leatherstocking - No. 15, 470 Yds, Par 5
191. Matthew Hunt
192. Carl Nichols
193. Jim Colton: Bandon Trails - No. 2, 214 Yds, Par 3; Old Macdonald - No. 10, 420 Yds, Par 4; Blackwolf Run (River) - No. 16, 620 Yds, Par 5
194. Alex Miller: Bethpage Black - No. 12, 501 Yds, Par 4; ? - No. ?, ? Yds, Par ?; Pacific Dunes - No. 14, 145 Yds, Par 3
195. Jim Thornton
196. George Freeman
197. Richard Choi
198. Mac Plumart
199. John Mayhugh
200. Chip Gaskins
201. Robert Ball
202. Sean Arble
203. Jud Tigerman
204. Deucie Bies
205. Jordan Wall
206. Tim Bert
207. Patrick Hodgdon
208. Kalen Braley
209. Eric Smith
210. Cristian Willaert
211. Brad Fleischer
212. Tom Doak
213. Ronald Montesano
214. Wyatt Halliday
215. Matt Bosela
216. JC Jones

Jim Thornton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition
« Reply #474 on: January 13, 2010, 06:35:05 PM »
Jim Colton-

Please make the following two edits to my scorecard on the first page:

1.  You have my 10th hole as the 392 yard Par 4 at Pasatiempo...this should be listed as my 11th hole.
2.  Please change the yardage on my 17th hole (Waterville) from 196 yards to 180 yards.

Next, I am switching my current 13th hole, the 180 yard Par 3 13th at Muirfield to the 413 yard, Par 4 at The Old Course.

Finally, my last three picks are:

1.  Linville, No. 3, 472 yards, Par 4
2.  Bel Air, No. 10, 195 yards, Par 3
3.  Honors Course, No. 15, 475 yards, Par 4

Thanks for all your work on this Jim....it's been a blast.

George Freeman, you're on the clock...

« Last Edit: January 13, 2010, 06:40:21 PM by Jim Thornton »