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Jeff Goldman

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2009, 09:50:07 PM »
These are neat answers, but don't do much unless we hear why these courses are so well bunkered.  Aesthetics?  Tie-ins?  Placement?  If placement, what kind?  I think a number of people have explained that there are at least 2 kinds of strategic hazards: Those that pose a direct risk/reward hazard, i.e., a "cape" tee shot, or a heroic carry leading to an easier next shot or better chance for birdie; and, the 2nd kind, those where every yard closer to the hazard improves your next shot, whereby golfers start giving the hazard healthy respect, then venturing closer and closer until -- plonk!  Then the process starts over again.  How do these named best bunkered courses hit any of these points (or others)?


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Kyle Henderson

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2009, 12:31:46 AM »
I think of this topic categorically.


Naturalistic: Sand Hills and Ballyneal

Revetted: Royal Dornoch

"Free flowing": Riviera
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Kevin Pallier

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2009, 10:02:15 PM »
For placement, playability and looks - one cant go past many of those on the Sandbelt eg: Kingston Heath and Royal Melbourne

In GB&I I though Ganton and Muirfield were standouts and in the USA I thought Sand Hills is.

Paul Nash

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2009, 04:02:11 AM »
woodhall Spa and RSG. Swinley Forest is also good

Mark Pearce

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2009, 04:08:19 AM »
The best bunkered courses I have played are Ganton and Muirfield, I think.
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Ian Andrew

Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2009, 02:52:47 PM »
Two underrated clubs with strategic bunkering...Myopia and Toronto Golf Club.

That was interesting to read, since it's now all been completely changed by Hawtree.
The new bunkers are flashy, elaborate and modern.
The old bunkers were simple and very elegant.

Cherry Hill (singular...just one hill, but it's a doozy) in Ridgeway, Ontario, CanadIA, after Ian Andrew's work.

Ron, thank you, that's very kind of you to say.
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2009, 04:00:50 PM »
I don't know much about it but I've seen the aerial view of the course on Google Maps and I'm blown away by the look of the bunkering at Seawane GC on Long Island.

Of courses I've played, I thought the bunkering at Shelter Harbor in RI was excellent.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2009, 10:30:53 PM »
Most of the usual suspects here have been named, but I saw a new one last week that deserves mention -- El Saler, Valencia, Spain.

Javier Arana's bunkers are chiseled into the edges of the greens.  You don't get away with weak approaches at El Saler.

Wade Whitehead

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2009, 11:01:31 PM »
I agree with many posts and confirm the usual suspects.

However, my favorite is a new one: Ballyhack.  It's simply expertly bunkered.

WW

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2009, 04:57:27 AM »
Most of the usual suspects here have been named, but I saw a new one last week that deserves mention -- El Saler, Valencia, Spain.

Javier Arana's bunkers are chiseled into the edges of the greens.  You don't get away with weak approaches at El Saler.

Tom,

I have to agree with you there. I've only seen photos of El Saler, but Arana's bunkering is totally different to anything else I've seen.

Dónal.

Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2009, 09:49:59 AM »
Trying to leave all of the classics out of the equation.... and aesthetics.... and even number of bunkers...

One renovated course that I really liked was The Dukes at St.Andrews by Tim Liddy... This was because the element of deception was very prevalent, even with yardage markers... If there had been no yardage markers, some of the decisions I made when I played it in August could have been hilarious... Really clever bunkering in places...

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2009, 12:12:57 PM »
Tom, What sort of condition was El Saler in when you saw it? I was there a couple of years ago and it was in poor condition, especially the greens. There are some extraordinary greenside bunkers there on the wrong sides of trees. What did you think of those?

Jim Tang

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2009, 10:50:01 PM »
Ballyneal
Royal County Down
Pacific Dunes

I just love the look of the bunkers at those three course.  The sand at Ballyneal is just perfect.  Don't like being in there, but it is great sand to play from.

Jon Spaulding

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Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2009, 10:28:05 AM »
Anything that Bell Sr. worked on.......

SFGC is my personal favorite by a wide margin.

Riviera is very good, and LACC will be once the restoration work is complete. In photos, the original version of Stanford looked quite inspired.

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Anthony Gray

Re: Best Bunkered Courses
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2009, 10:44:36 AM »


   Wine Valley is my choice. Bold and aesthically perfect. Placed at various places to affect all levels of players. A real treat.

  Anthony



 

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