[Anthony Gray]

    508 Par 4 from the tips   HCP 5

  False front with severe run off and divot field. Love the mounding.

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  Mounding resemblesGarland laying on his back.

  

[Scott_Burroughs]

You probably saw this coming:

[Garland Bayley]

You mean to tell me you don't see le petit tetons in that picture instead of un grande estomac?

[Anthony Gray]

  The two mounds


  Maybe if they were together and the peeks softened the obvious comparison would be avoided.

 They seldom come into play, as in having a lie on them.

  CBM said every great golf hole has a twist.

  Resembles 17 at Cruden Bay. Similarities with CB always good.

  Those land forms occur in nature.

  Anthony

 

[Nick Schaan]

Beleive it or not the two mounds noted were actually existing, not shaped or built at all.

[Anthony Gray]

Beleive it or not the two mounds noted were actually existing, not shaped or built at all.

  Surprising info Nick. What was the surrounding land that is now fairway like?

  Anthony

[Scott_Burroughs]

To me, this is the hardest hole on the course, regardless of wind direction.  Into the wind, #1 is toughest.

[Alex Miller]

To me, this is the hardest hole on the course, regardless of wind direction.  Into the wind, #1 is toughest.

? I am confused by your statement.

Also, do these dogleg rights feel at all repetitive?

[Anthony Gray]

To me, this is the hardest hole on the course, regardless of wind direction.  Into the wind, #1 is toughest.

? I am confused by your statement.

Also, do these dogleg rights feel at all repetitive?

  I didn't even notice there were back to back dog leg rights before I posted this thread. This course has one of the best mixes of par 4's you can find.

  Anthony

[Alex Miller]

To me, this is the hardest hole on the course, regardless of wind direction.  Into the wind, #1 is toughest.

? I am confused by your statement.

Also, do these dogleg rights feel at all repetitive?

  I didn't even notice there were back to back dog leg rights before I posted this thread. This course has one of the best mixes of par 4's you can find.

  Anthony

More than that, 4 doglegs right and 5 is a slight right. That's 3 1/2 out of 4 holes. I'll take your word for it of course but don't all of those holes favor a fade? at least on the teeshots?

[Matt_Ward]

Do my eyes deceive me -- does the hole start from an elevated tee box ?

Since the hole turns right -- a few already have -- can one play up the far right to what looks like an adjoining hole and get a bit less yardage for your approach ?

Final question as you stand on the tee what is the prevailing wind direction for most days ?

t h a n k s   . . .

[Kalen Braley]

Matt,

Thats the driving range u see over there and while it is a bit of a more direct line, even if you hit to the furthest spot on it, it would still leave an approach of over 200 yards into the green....all carry!

To boot, I'm guessing its OB anyways!! 

[Richard Choi]

It is all waste area from fairway to the driving range, so hitting to the right is not an option. You really need to carry about 250 to 280 to get a mid-iron approach to the green. Left fairway is safer as there is more room, but that makes the hole very long.

The key to this hole is to make sure you hit enough to get on the green on the second. If you miss anywhere short, it will roll all the way down to the collection area which is about 40 yards short of the green and about 20 yards below. Even if you miss to the back of the green, it is preferable to missing short. You will need to club up about 2 clubs.

The wind is usually behind you, but you will get a headwind every now and then and that makes this hole play very very long.

[Rob Rigg]

Not a big fan of this hole - first two rounds were pars, the third time was an X bc of messing about on the false front with a front pin position.

The Peter Herreid method of playing the hole is definitely the best - play fairly safe off the tee to make sure you clear the waste area, then hit the ball to the back of the green regardless of pin and try to two putt.

I enjoy the risk/reward element on the drive - but no matter how far you hit it, the best play is still a shot to the back of the green.

There are about 2,536 divots at the bottom of the hill fronting the green - imagine that . . .

[Anthony Gray]

To me, this is the hardest hole on the course, regardless of wind direction.  Into the wind, #1 is toughest.

? I am confused by your statement.

Also, do these dogleg rights feel at all repetitive?

  I didn't even notice there were back to back dog leg rights before I posted this thread. This course has one of the best mixes of par 4's you can find.

  Anthony

More than that, 4 doglegs right and 5 is a slight right. That's 3 1/2 out of 4 holes. I'll take your word for it of course but don't all of those holes favor a fade? at least on the teeshots?

  You are correct.I just did not notice when playing. Again...Garland is a distraction. Ask Bill McBride

[Scott_Burroughs]

To me, this is the hardest hole on the course, regardless of wind direction.  Into the wind, #1 is toughest.

? I am confused by your statement.

Yes, that's a little confusing.  #1 is hardest only when it's into the wind (just plain long).  #7 is 'hardest', as it is hard regardless of wind direction.

[Alex Miller]

To me, this is the hardest hole on the course, regardless of wind direction.  Into the wind, #1 is toughest.

? I am confused by your statement.

Yes, that's a little confusing.  #1 is hardest only when it's into the wind (just plain long).  #7 is 'hardest', as it is hard regardless of wind direction.

Scott, I don't mean to have an argument over semantics, but....

If 7 is hardest "regardless of wind direction", then when the wind is in the direction so that it blows into #1, which is hardest?


Also, anyone ever attempt Chambers from the tips? Just curious as to whether it plays as long as the card would indicate. Especially next to the coast...

[Scott Weersing]

I see this hole as a good four and a half par hole. It will take two good shots to reach the green. I would agree that it is best to go way past the two large mounds. You could hit a layup into a mound or be blocked by a mound.

I am not sure if the right hand side of the fairway gives a better angle. When I played the hole last March, I hit into the bunkers on the right, layed up and then hit it over the green. It is hard to figure out how far to hit an approach into the green because the green is so elevated. I would think it is too elevated for a links course. I would have liked to have seen the green in more of bowl when you could go long and have the ball come back onto the green. Or have the green less elevated.  I am still undecided whether I like this hole or dislike this hole. It does have a nice view from the green but I am not interested in what you see after completing a hole as much as how the hole plays.

[Rob Rigg]

Pretty sure Mike Wagner has played CB from the tips - if not he could no problem.

CB is not by the coast, it is on the Sound and there is not nearly as much wind as you would find somewhere like Bandon.

While CB can be really stretched, it plays firm and fast which provides for a lot of roll out off the tee on some of the holes.

It will be interesting to watch the Am and Open there - I feel like CB is a good course for 5+ handicaps because it is challenging and fun, but open to good scoring. For a real stick, CB can probably be played a couple of stokes below handicap because there is not a lot of danger out there on most of the holes. I think the pros are going to go really low no matter how long they stretch the course.

[Alex Miller]

I think the pros are going to go really low no matter how long they stretch the course.

The USGA won't like that 

[Tom Yost]

A fun hole. The tee shot offers a choice of how much of the waste area you want to carry to leave a shorter second shot.  The green surface is not visible from the fairway, due to the uphill nature and the mounds.  The green itself has some bold contours.

#7 green from behind



#7 green from the right

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