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Pete Lavallee

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Torrey looses iconic tree
« on: December 09, 2009, 11:20:51 AM »
Here's a link to an article about the loss of the iconic Cypress tree behind the 6th green at the North Course.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/09/1s9torrey/
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tlavin

Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 11:31:14 AM »
Not that I usually give a shite about a fallen tree, but this is a bummer.
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Nick Asbrock

Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 12:09:21 PM »
Even though it sucks to loose a piece of the course, I think it will make the hole better- better veiw of the ocean and green has no protection from the swirling winds anymore.
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Roger Wolfe

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 02:47:54 PM »
I know one happy guy... the superintendent.
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Pete Lavallee

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 02:58:01 PM »
Roger,

The superintendent is a girl. The tree is far enough in back of the green that it doesn't effect play, nor do I think it blocks the wind or sun from the green. It basically shields the view of the elevated 7th tee. It is truely a beautiful tree in an area where Cypress trees seldom grow; I suspect our climate is a bit too hot for them. Apparently it's gloomy enough in the Torrey Pines microclimate for that particular specimen to flourish.
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tlavin

Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 03:24:32 PM »
Quote from: Pete Lavallee on December 09, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
I suspect our climate is a bit too hot for them.

Braggart.
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Roger Wolfe

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 04:46:55 PM »
Quote from: Pete Lavallee on December 09, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
Roger,

The superintendent is a girl. The tree is far enough in back of the green that it doesn't effect play, nor do I think it blocks the wind or sun from the green. It basically shields the view of the elevated 7th tee. It is truely a beautiful tree in an area where Cypress trees seldom grow; I suspect our climate is a bit too hot for them. Apparently it's gloomy enough in the Torrey Pines microclimate for that particular specimen to flourish.

You want to hear something ironic... my wife... who is a superintendent... is also a girl!

To quote a USGA agronomist:

You never see grass on a tree farm.
You never see trees on a sod farm.
Nuff said.
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Joe Hancock

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 05:32:48 PM »
Roger,

I know what that USGA guy means, but man do I bristle at those cute, simplistic explanations. They don't really address the issue of shade on a golf course, do they? And the reason a sod farm doesn't have trees is a lot more encompassing than shade.

But anyway, I understand, but dislike that type of delivery of the message. Another one I despise is "they call them greens for a reason".

Ugh. We need to address things a bit more intelligently than that.

Joe

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Roger Wolfe

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 05:43:04 PM »
Quote from: Joe Hancock on December 09, 2009, 05:32:48 PM
Roger,

I know what that USGA guy means, but man do I bristle at those cute, simplistic explanations. They don't really address the issue of shade on a golf course, do they? And the reason a sod farm doesn't have trees is a lot more encompassing than shade.

But anyway, I understand, but dislike that type of delivery of the message. Another one I despise is "they call them greens for a reason".

Ugh. We need to address things a bit more intelligently than that.

Joe



Didn't mean to offend anyone... I truly don't know anything about this specific tree... I just know of many golf holes and superintendent careers gone awry due to member/owner affinity for "iconic" trees.  The tree at Torrey in question is probably not one of these... I agree... but that view is going to be spectacular without that tree in the way.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 06:12:08 PM »
I'm know the tree is iconic and all....

But I've never really gotten why, its pretty much fugly if you ask me!!  ;D
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Pete Lavallee

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 06:24:08 PM »
Well, nobody fugging asked you! ::)
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Joe Hancock

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 06:57:39 PM »
Quote from: Roger Wolfe on December 09, 2009, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: Joe Hancock on December 09, 2009, 05:32:48 PM
Roger,

I know what that USGA guy means, but man do I bristle at those cute, simplistic explanations. They don't really address the issue of shade on a golf course, do they? And the reason a sod farm doesn't have trees is a lot more encompassing than shade.

But anyway, I understand, but dislike that type of delivery of the message. Another one I despise is "they call them greens for a reason".

Ugh. We need to address things a bit more intelligently than that.

Joe



Didn't mean to offend anyone... I truly don't know anything about this specific tree... I just know of many golf holes and superintendent careers gone awry due to member/owner affinity for "iconic" trees.  The tree at Torrey in question is probably not one of these... I agree... but that view is going to be spectacular without that tree in the way.

Oh, don't worry...I'm not offended! I thought I would share my opinion of those USGA guy type phrases...that's all.

 ;D
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Dick Kirkpatrick

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 08:13:06 PM »
Better hole now
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Torrey looses iconic tree
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 09:59:38 AM »
Quote from: Pete Lavallee on December 09, 2009, 06:24:08 PM
Well, nobody fugging asked you! ::)

Its nothing personal Pete, just wonderin'  ;)
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