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Alex Miller

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Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« on: November 30, 2009, 11:44:11 PM »
Saw a post in another thread and it got me thinking... Ran had great write ups this year of some standout golf courses.

California GC of San Francisco
Clear Creek Club
Cascades
Country Club of Charleston
Eastward Ho!
Essex County
Lancaster
Cruden Bay
Loch Lomond
Machrihanish
Durban
Humewood

Which course would you play if given the opportunity?
Is there an element of great GCA that unites these courses?
Which one has the best site to work with / which course makes the best use of natural landforms?

Looking forward to 2010s

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 01:36:16 AM »
Alex

I've only seen: The Cal Club / Lancaster / Cruden Bay / Loch Lomond and think Ran gives some great insights into all four.

Which course would you play if given the opportunity?
I think I'd most like to see Macrihanish

Is there an element of great GCA that unites these courses?
I would have to see more to answer that question - they are certainly from a cross-section of settings though. Poor Ran  ;D

Which one has the best site to work with / which course makes the best use of natural landforms?
From those above that I've seen I would probably say Cruden Bay

I think the The Cal Club derserves a paricularly mention though. Whilst not a greenfield site -  for KP to incorporate the large ridge into the design he deserves credit and the layout is overall very solid indeed.


Bill_McBride

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 01:55:32 PM »
Alex

I've only seen: The Cal Club / Lancaster / Cruden Bay / Loch Lomond and think Ran gives some great insights into all four.

Which course would you play if given the opportunity?
I think I'd most like to see Macrihanish

Is there an element of great GCA that unites these courses?
I would have to see more to answer that question - they are certainly from a cross-section of settings though. Poor Ran  ;D

Which one has the best site to work with / which course makes the best use of natural landforms?
From those above that I've seen I would probably say Cruden Bay

I think the The Cal Club derserves a paricularly mention though. Whilst not a greenfield site -  for KP to incorporate the large ridge into the design he deserves credit and the layout is overall very solid indeed.



The routing was changed at the California Club in South San Francisco?  I knew Kyle did a major renovation there but didn't know he brought new previously unused terrain into the course.  Please elaborate!

Jay Flemma

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 01:59:25 PM »
Cal Club.
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Phil McDade

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 02:05:42 PM »
The Machrinhanish write-up is not new.

Essex and Eastward Ho! were the two that I really thought would be worth seeking out, based on the reviews.

Hard to tell about the best site, but Eastward Ho! looks like marverlous terrain.

I think one element that unites these courses is unpredictability -- the sense that the landforms yield uncertainty in the mind of the golfer, which I think in Ran's views (one shared I'm guessing by a fair number of GCA posters) is something to be praised.


Jud_T

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 02:09:26 PM »
Cruden Bay
Machrihanish
Clear Creek
Eastward Ho!
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Scott Warren

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 02:11:51 PM »
As Phil touched on, several of those are old reviews that got a touch-up and/or new pics this year.

Phil McDade

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2009, 04:57:01 PM »
Machrihanish just got a new date next to it in "courses by country;" nothing about the review (which, ironically, is the one that led me to this site in the first place) is new. I'm hoping new pics are posted sometime, as the quality of Ran's photos goes up in proportion to how recently he has posted them.

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2009, 05:05:37 PM »
The routing was changed at the California Club in South San Francisco?  I knew Kyle did a major renovation there but didn't know he brought new previously unused terrain into the course.  Please elaborate!

Bill

The 7th is a new hole - see pics in Rans review

I may be wrong but I was led to believe that the previous hole went downhill. It has been converted into the new driving range that plays uphill in the middle of the course.

Sean_A

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2009, 05:48:20 PM »
I was incredibly impressed by the Cal Club review, but the course which draws me more is Eastward Ho!  I would like to play it because it is a Fowler design and it looks to be one hell of a lot of fun.  Maybe one day. 

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Brad Swanson

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2009, 07:21:31 PM »
Eastward Ho!

Ryan Admussen

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Re: Ran's Reviews '09 - You Decide
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2009, 07:39:12 PM »
The Cruden Bay review/pictures definitely peaked my interest!