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Rick Sides

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The Links Golf Club
« on: November 23, 2009, 03:23:55 PM »
I just got done playing a round at a course I have never played, Links Golf Club, in Marlton N.J.  It was a nice surprise.  The course was not in the greatest condition; all things considered, it is the end of November here in the Northeast, but it had a lot of neat holes.  I believe it is the only course Martin Hawtree designed in the U.S. Has anyone else played it?
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Tom_Doak

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 03:56:11 PM »
Rick:

I've never heard of the course, and I was unaware that Martin Hawtree had ever designed a course in the USA.  How long has it been there?  They must not have done very well on the p.r. front.
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Rick Sides

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 04:06:00 PM »
Hey Tom,
The course was built in 1976. It was open to the public for a few years and is now private . There are a lot of interesting par 4's and the course is pretty interesting considering it is on a relatively flat piece of land.  Hawtree also did a nice job of using angles and creating some short par 4's.  Worth a visit next time your in NJ.
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JSlonis

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 04:12:03 PM »
Quote from: Rick Sides on November 23, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
I just got done playing a round at a course I have never played, Links Golf Club, in Marlton N.J.  It was a nice surprise.  The course was not in the greatest condition; all things considered, it is the end of November here in the Northeast, but it had a lot of neat holes.  I believe it is the only course Martin Hawtree designed in the U.S. Has anyone else played it?

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Rick,

I really say this with the best of intentions...Had you been drinking before your tee time?  ;D  Whatever you saw the day you played, I must have clearly missed.

Tom Doak,

There is a good reason you have never heard of it. Pretty nondesript course that meanders through a housing development for a fair amount of the course. It was built in 1975-76.

The GAP actually had the local US Mid Am qualifier there this year and there weren't many guys that would give it praise.  Not that tournament golfers are the best judges, they often are not, but guys around here have all played the best courses in the area and I'm not sure any would put the Links even in the middle of the pack.  
« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 04:16:23 PM by JSlonis »
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Matt OBrien

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 04:22:08 PM »
Quote from: JSlonis on November 23, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
Quote from: Rick Sides on November 23, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
I just got done playing a round at a course I have never played, Links Golf Club, in Marlton N.J.  It was a nice surprise.  The course was not in the greatest condition; all things considered, it is the end of November here in the Northeast, but it had a lot of neat holes.  I believe it is the only course Martin Hawtree designed in the U.S. Has anyone else played it?

 ??? ??? ???

Rick,

I really say this with the best of intentions...Had you been drinking before your tee time?  ;D  Whatever you saw the day you played, I must have clearly missed.

Tom Doak,

There is a good reason you have never heard of it. Pretty nondesript course that meanders through a housing development for a fair amount of the course. It was built in 1975-76.

The GAP actually had the local US Mid Am qualifier there this year and there weren't many guys that would give it praise.  Not that tournament golfers are the best judges, they often are not, but guys around here have all played the best courses in the area and I'm not sure any would put the Links even in the middle of the pack.  
I cant agree with Jamie more. I actually played with Jamie in this tournement and I would have to say that I have never walked off a golf course and was so happy to leave.
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TEPaul

Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 04:39:37 PM »
Jamie:

I remember that place now (well sort of). I went over there to interview them for membership into GAP maybe 10 years or more ago. I'm not 100% proof-positive sure about this but I think that may be one of the courses that CBM and Whigam declined to help and advise them on and were not the driving force behind their architecture.  ;)

What I think I remember even better though was one hot looking secretary sitting in one of the offices in their clubhouse.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 04:42:43 PM by TEPaul »
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 04:47:58 PM »
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Rick Sides

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 06:07:33 PM »
I probably should have prefaced my review of the course by giving the state of a lot of South New Jersey courses for those unfamiliar.  The Links is by no means great, but it was somewhat of a surprise compared to a lot of our courses in the Burlington County area.  A lot of courses here are very up and back with not much creativity.  I did think this course was at least somewhat creative for flat land.  It is by no stretch a top course in NJ, just better than a lot of the woeful stuff we have in this county.
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JSlonis

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 06:16:30 PM »
Rick,

No worries...I thought maybe I missed something or played the wrong course. ;D

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Matt_Ward

Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 06:27:23 PM »
Rick:

The Links is woeful -- we are talking about dog layouts here -- the comments made by JSlonis are spot on.

Burlington has few really solid layouts -- The Links is really bad and anyone venturing there for something remotely tied to compelling architecture has smoked some really heavy duty weed. ;D
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Rick Sides

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 06:39:01 PM »
Matt,
What course in Burlington County, besides maybe Little Mill, is solid?
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Tom_Doak

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 06:42:58 PM »
If it was built prior to 1980, it is almost certainly not the work of Martin Hawtree.  Maybe it's by his father, Fred Hawtree.
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TEPaul

Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 06:49:10 PM »
Mr. Jimbo Slonis:

Are you telling us you might have qualified for the US Mid-Am on the wrong course like a course that was not actually holding a Mid-Am qualifier? If so, that is a pretty neat trick for certain, and I will see to it that you will be suspended from GAP golf next year and sent to bed without supper for at least a month.
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Aidan Bradley

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 06:54:44 PM »
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Bart Bradley

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2009, 07:20:25 PM »
Aidan:

Mount Mitchell lists FRED Hawtree as the designer ...not Martin.  I have always thought that Fred was the father...Is that correct?

Bart
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Rick Sides

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2009, 07:32:48 PM »
Tom D,
My apologies, it was Fred Hawtree.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2009, 07:51:45 PM »
Rick,
So, in this case the apple fell far from the tree?
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Rick Sides

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2009, 07:59:22 PM »
Sounds like it Jim ;D
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Matt_Ward

Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2009, 08:05:50 PM »
Rick:

I agree that there's little in Burlington -- minus Little Mill that is of interest from a compelling architecture side of things.

The Links is nothing more than a shag field. You play there out of desperation not desire.

Frankly, the only quick thinking item you do is when you make a bee-line back to your vehicle.

There aren't many Doak zero's in my book in Jersey - this happens to be one of them for me.

If you think the course is worth visiting -- then, with all due respect, you must be truly joking.

JSlonis:

Holding a national qualifier on such a dog layout is an insult to the players who competed and a clear devaluation of what a national event needs to do. What a real disappointment that such an event was held there.

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Carl Nichols

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2009, 08:40:06 PM »
Matt:
I wish you'd stop pulling punches and tell us what you really think about this place.
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Matt_Ward

Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2009, 08:47:30 PM »
Carl:

Sorry partner -- I can't help myself sometimes ! ;D
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Joe Bausch

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2009, 08:55:35 PM »
I'm going to have to get to the Links Club very soon and photo-doc the place.  It really sounds special!
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Aidan Bradley

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2009, 09:26:32 PM »
Bart..........

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Matt OBrien

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2009, 09:44:43 PM »
Quote from: Joe Bausch on November 23, 2009, 08:55:35 PM
I'm going to have to get to the Links Club very soon and photo-doc the place.  It really sounds special!

Joe please save your time and money going to that place. Go to the zoo and take pictures there. It may look similar.
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Bart Bradley

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Re: The Links Golf Club
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2009, 10:02:09 PM »
Aiden:

Thanks.

Bart
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