[Mike Hendren]

I ask because I have played the hole twice in pretty strong wind and hit driver into that bunker both times.  Mid-flight, both caddies exclaimed "golf shot."

[Tom_Doak]

Did you make three?

[Joe Hancock]

I ask because I have played the hole twice in pretty strong wind and hit driver into that bunker both times.  Mid-flight, both caddies exclaimed "golf shot."

And they didn't say that on your other 109 shots?  

Sorry. I haven't played the hole, and don't have an answer. Was it the wind that changed things?

Joe

[Rick Shefchik]

From this angle, it looks like your golf shots would have missed the green anyway. As I recall, this is the angle from the tee. Maybe a draw riding the wind would have kicked onto the green if the bunker weren't there, but I don't see it as bad architecture.

[Dónal Ó Ceallaigh]

So the caddies were wrong

[Philippe Binette]

The bunkers behind the green, especially the right one are... dissappointing, to be polite

[Jeff Spittel]

Only on this site could you find somebody to criticize that hole.

That's like complaining about Marissa Miller's right earlobe.

[Mike Benham]

I ask because I have played the hole twice in pretty strong wind and hit driver into that bunker both times.  Mid-flight, both caddies exclaimed "golf shot."

I wouldn't define that bunkers as "Front right" ... it is mid-green ...

Which way was the wind blowing?

[David Stamm]

Only on this site could you find somebody to criticize that hole.

 

+1. 

[Bill_McBride]

Bogey, are you seriously complaining about safely clearing the chasm twice?

 

I have played there twice and hit four balls into the ocean.  All four were hit pretty solid.

 

Congratulations on your success.  If you'd prefer to think of it as bad architecture, well okay!

[Tim Bert]

I ask because I have played the hole twice in pretty strong wind and hit driver into that bunker both times.  Mid-flight, both caddies exclaimed "golf shot."

Sounds like you should consider laying up.

[Mike Hendren]

Did you make three?

Nope - par.

[Joe Hancock]

Mike,

I'm becoming even more curious about your critique, only because, so far, you've based the criticism on your own(two) results. I think you're leading up to something, so I'm wondering how your ball ended up in the bunker when it was:

a) on line during most of it's flight?
b) off line but working towards the correct line?
c) a thing of beauty, regardless of line?
d) none of the above

Looking forward to further insights,

Joe

[Mike Hendren]

Big wind coming from the right.  First time his a big high shot that was blown left into the bunker.  Second time a low cut.  As for direction, neither was more than a few paces off line.

I never SAID it was bad architecture - I just wondered why the architect felt compelled to effective extend the dramatic carry a few yards through the use of the bunker and thereby also eliminate any run-up option, however narrow it might be.  

Mike

[Mike Hendren]

I ask because I have played the hole twice in pretty strong wind and hit driver into that bunker both times.  Mid-flight, both caddies exclaimed "golf shot."

And they didn't say that on your other 109 shots?  

Sorry. I haven't played the hole, and don't have an answer. Was it the wind that changed things?

Joe

Come on Joe - the best kept secret on GCA is how easy Cypress Point Club is.  Heck, even I shot 85 without playing well.

Mike

[Mike Hendren]

Jeff and David,  what do you like about the bunker?

Who is Marissa Miller?

[Pete Lavallee]

Mr. Hendren,

Should Sunday School teachers really try to play the role of curmudgeon? Frankly this persona doesn't suit you well. The answer to your question is that the hole is all about excitement. Granted one should be thrilled to carry the Ocean; apparently thay wasn't enough for you. Next time when you clear both the Ocean and  the bunkers I hope it will take several weeks to wipe the smile off your face.

[Joe Hancock]

Mike,

So what you're really asking is "would the 16th at CP have more play options if the front right bunker didn't exist and, perhaps, the land was shaped such that a shot landing there might feed onto the green?"

Is that close?

BTW, I think it would take a lot more study and familiarity with the specifics of the land and wind for me to offer a valid opinion on that.

Joe

[Bill_McBride]

Jeff and David,  what do you like about the bunker?

Who is Marissa Miller?

Marissa Miller, Victoria's Secret model:



How'd she get in this discussion?  But thanks anyway, Bogey man!

[Mike Hendren]

Mr. Hendron,

Should Sunday School teachers really try to play the role of curmudgeon? Frankly this persona doesn't suit you well. The answer to your question is that the hole is all about excitement. Granted one should be thrilled to carry the Ocean; apparently thay wasn't enough for you. Next time when you clear both the Ocean and  the bunkers I hope it will take several weeks to wipe the smile off your face.

Pete, any thread - however ridiculous - that draws  you out of the shadows is a good one my friend.  I hope you're still striping it like you did during our round together at Cuscowilla a few years ago.  

My second try at the 16th was a boring cut shot that knocked the pin down, only to catch the very top edge of the bunker.  When I looked up to see it in flight - it was perhaps my most thrilling moment in 40 years of playing the game.  I'm still smiling as I type this, so don't worry about me.  

Kindest regards,

Mike

[Bill_McBride]

Only on this site could you find somebody to criticize that hole.

That's like complaining about Marissa Miller's right earlobe.

Got it, missed that.  Google is a wonderful thing.

[Rick Shefchik]

My second try at the 16th was a boring cut shot that knocked the pin down, only to catch the very top edge of the bunker.  When I looked up to see it in flight - it was perhaps my most thrilling moment in 40 years of playing the game.  I'm still smiling as I type this, so don't worry about me.  

Mike,

I think I've got it now. The second time you played it, the hole location must have been here:

[Wade Whitehead]

Seriously: If you'd pulled both shots 5 yards left and they'd ended up on the green, would the hole would be a flawless one?

WW

[Mac Plumart]

Soley by looking at the pictures and other pictures I have seen of Cypress Point's 16th hole, I can say with 100% certainty that it is my opinion that this hole is flawless and wonderful. 

Anyone who has a chance to be played it should feel honored and privaleged.  Seriously.  Take a look at that thing!  Oh my!!!

I don't care if I made a 10, perhaps it would be because I was in awe of the holes sheer beauty, terrifying carry, etc.

Stunning hole!!

[Jim_Kennedy]

I've been reading this topic and I still can't figure out how any of the bunkering around this hole fails? I'm looking at them and I'm thinking that they actually help to entice a player away from taking the safe(r) route to the left, i.e., their placement slyly suggesting  the green as 'pocket' and the sand as 'fingers' of a big ol' baseball glove.

 

 

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