Anthony, For what it's worth - I have a poor golf swing not a poor memory! My memory of John Kavanaugh was that of a very witty man who was golf knowledgable and quite frankly someone I might have enjoyed hosting at my club in Chicago-who knows maybe I someday will. On the other hand , John could be very polarizing with caustic remarks that were at times in arguably poor taste. He is human, so we know he isn't perfect. Who is. The fact that this is Ran's site and we are all "guests" would make me feel the same way I feel when I am a guest at someone else's club. As you know, John was removed from our forum. My sense then, and today, is that Bob did not agree that a banned individual should be the topic of a Q and A without prior approval of Ran. Is this so unreasonable? Sometimes what may have seemed like a good idea in the end isn't - just my opinion. As far as me standing up for Bob because he is a friend, I would submit that he is a friendly guy who you can learn alot about golf and life from- pretty interesting man that won't be around forever. As an aside- Glad you are saving lives this late on a cold night- I shall be at it in the AM. Be good, Jack