Mac,
Yeah sometimes I get as confused as a goat on Astroturf around here.....I get as confused as a breast fed baby at Hooters.....I get as... well, I could go on all day, but only have one bit of advice....
Don't dare mention Merion!
And don't be a gca not named Doak, Coore, or Crenshaw and expect any respect around here! Hell, I almost changed my screen name to "Rodney D"......
Doesn't your final statement provide an example of what Mac is lamenting?
?? On my college football chat we call it homerism, here it is called idolizing... er respect. AND... with all due respect Jeff, create a Pac Dunes or the like and the love will follow. As those that follow the board know I am usually the first to call out the TD/C&C homerism but from another architect it just comes off badly. My apologies for being to the point.
Greg,
If you say so.
I'm just "calling it like I see it," which is to say I believe many here would prefer to see Doak take a leak than hear what Fazio or others have to say about gca......this place has always had a counter culture mentality. So be it. I understand that. As I also said, I try to keep my sense of humor about such things, or I wouldn't participate.
I guess humor is now on the list of vebotten things around here, too, along with stating the obvious.
Your call for me to design a nice ocean front cousre like Pac Dunes reminds me of the old Steve Martin bit about making a million dollars and not paying taxes....."First, make a million dollars, then......." I would love to design an ocean front course, of course. But I am content to design high quality public courses on other sites in the meantime.
Think about it. How much ink do a few favored courses here get? Some talk about affordable public golf (or the flip side, just complain about high cost whenever incurred) and yet so few of those courses get talked about.
Again, I get it. No one really comes here to talk architecture. They come to talk famous courses. Hey, I enjoy that, too, except for the fact that I would rarely post an honest negative opinion of others work for professional reasons.
I recall TD asking for an analysis of Stone Eagle once. Of all the fawning responses, I posted (I think) a well reasoned response (based on five photos posted) about how much the fronts of the greens were cut off for a guy who says he favors the running game option, and especially for a club where presumably seniors will make up a large part of play. I also noted that of the few greens shown, most had clusters of bunkers, which I thought would be repetitive if there were any more of them. As I recall, TD actually thanked me for responding with an actual answer!
I started coming here for a variety of reaons, but I like discussing architectural theory most of all, rather than discuss travel pieces. That's why I like some of Pat Mucci's threads. But as the OP says, try putting a theory question up and you will get limited response compared to a "I'm going to Bandon!" thread.
One last time.....I understand. Until there is a discussion forum titled "Talk about things Jeff likes" I will agree with Lou. Discussion forums are free form. Their strength and weakness are both the same - you never know exactly where the discussion will lead......