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Anthony Gray

What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« on: November 12, 2009, 08:35:49 PM »


   Discuss............


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Sean Leary

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 09:04:03 PM »
LACC North would be an excellent US Open venue. A little on the short side now though.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 09:53:38 PM »
Men's major, Women's major?

Professional major, Amateur major?
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Alex Miller

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 10:26:53 PM »
Quote from: Sean Leary on November 12, 2009, 09:04:03 PM
LACC North would be an excellent US Open venue. A little on the short side now though.

That would be an awesome venue. They'd probably move the tee up on 1 though, to make it par 70 and a 490 yard downhill par 4.

As for making the course longer, that might not be easy to do. Holes 2,3,5,6,8,9,10,12,14,15,17,and 18 (maybe 5-10 yards if possible) do not allow for any more room to extend the tee back. Hole 4 could be made into a 230 yard par 3, that's an extra 25, and 11 could be pushed back to make it around 260, but that's not really necessary.

I think the only hole that could be lengthened and have any effect is 16, but even on the holes that are lengthened the fairway bunkers are not really in play for today's pros.

Unfortunately a U.S. Open at LACC would require Rees, and I would love to see that course stay as is. I've played Riv and LA and actually enjoyed LA north more.
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 10:39:49 PM »
Seminole in a world where the USGA guys have to sweat.
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Norbert P

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 11:02:00 PM »
  At the risk of pissing off Richard  -  Royal Dornoch.
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 11:05:57 PM »
Pine Valley

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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 11:14:29 PM »
Pine Valley is nice call. I think Sebonack and Friars Head should be looked at as well.
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JSlonis

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 11:34:44 PM »
Based on what I've seen happen to many classic venues that have hosted majors, I'd rather see Pine Valley remain Major-less.
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Rich Goodale

Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2009, 08:01:08 AM »
Quote from: Slag Bandoon on November 12, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
  At the risk of pissing off Richard  -  Royal Dornoch.

No risk there, Slagbert!  I'd love to see an Open at Dornoch too, but you'd have to convince the R&A and their hangers-on to spend a week or so in the caravan park, as what limited lodging there is locally would all be taken up by the players.
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Michael Moore

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 08:08:05 AM »
Quote from: Tiger_Bernhardt on November 12, 2009, 11:14:29 PM
Pine Valley is nice call. I think Sebonack and Friars Head should be looked at as well.

The 2013 United States Women's Open will be held at Sebonack.
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Jud_T

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 08:59:14 AM »
Butler National. 
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Jay Flemma

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2009, 09:05:27 AM »
I assume you mean men's major?

Duh...National!
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jonathan_becker

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2009, 09:07:38 AM »
Quote from: Jud Tigerman on November 13, 2009, 08:59:14 AM
Butler National. 

YES.  If the Open was there, not much would need to change to get it tournament ready.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 09:14:49 AM »
LACC is currently being restored by Gil Hanse with help from Geoff Shackelford:

We completed our restoration of the fairway bunkers on the North Course at The Los Angeles Country Club, with Geoff Shackelford this Spring, and we are looking forward to continuing the restoration of the course in 2010.

http://www.hansegolfdesign.com/news-links.htm

LACC will host the 2017 Walker Cup.



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Philippe Binette

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 09:50:50 AM »
steve, that's the 10th at riviera...

Sand Hills.... lack of infrastructure although there plenty of camping space out there...
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 10:05:15 AM »
Never mind.  ;D

It's been deleted.

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Dan Herrmann

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 10:24:30 AM »
Men's major? 
Lancaster Country Club (PA).
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Matt_Ward

Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 10:34:10 AM »
Guys for a layout to even remotely be considered for a major it must have more than just the course element -- there must be plenty of leg room for adjoining corporate tents, the media compound and all the rest. Being near a metro location is helpful but not a central priority. Clearly being able to handle the crowds and traffic is also something that needs to be factored.

For what it's worth I can name two NY courses -- Sebonack and in the greater Albany area -- Olde Kinderhook. Both have the capabilities in hosting such an event -- US Open or PGA.
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TEPaul

Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 10:58:51 AM »
Well, it has the essential infastructure for sure----the Jacksonville airport isn't far (very accessible airport from all over the country), it has the infastructure to accommodate thousands of people to stay and it as plenty of room for corporate tents if they shut down one runway on the smaller-plane airport across the street.

Of course I'm referring to the world's greatest hidden gem for the US Open-----The Fernandina Beach Municipal GC. I doubt Tiger Woods could break 300 on that course in the US Open, provided the USGA upped the US Open to 90 holes!  ;)
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Jud_T

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 11:00:48 AM »
Erin Hills-8348 from the tips.....they'll still probably shoot nothing on it unless the wind blows!
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Carl Rogers

Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 01:55:40 PM »
a Mike Strantz course setup in a way to scramble up par on each hole for each day of the championship.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2009, 02:18:42 PM »
Thanks Carl,
Royal New Kent.
Demands accuracy, recovery skills, solid putting. Tips at 7300+.
Reasonably close to Richmond and Williamsburg.
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Dan Boerger

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2009, 02:22:32 PM »
Hold a US Open at Pine Valley? No room for spectators, so make it a Pay-Per-View event.

I would love to see a major at NGLA
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: What course that has never held a major should hold a major?
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2009, 02:27:40 PM »
LACC North always comes comes up in this discussion.  I normally don't like to say anything adverse about a course, but I just don't get it.  I thought it was good but not that good.  I think its aura tends to elevate its merit.  I can see it holding an Amateur but not an Open or PGA. 
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