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« on: November 05, 2009, 03:29:43 AM »

we all know that many of the world's great golf courses have a railroad track that runs alongside it's property stakes- which got me to wondering... are there any quality golf courses that lay hard by an airport?  i know that there are courses adjacent to Miami and Orlando (and the old teeth of the dog  runway at Casa De Campo)
Or since private flight isnt an option (for me anyway) maybe a better question is what is the best course that is closest to a major or 2nd tier public airport? (which would eliminate the pine valley airstrip as well as the airfields in North Bend, Or.  and Monterrey)
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 03:37:53 AM »

Scotland has 3 good contenders...

Both Royal Troon and Prestwick are right next door to Glasgow Prestwick, which I believe is an International Airport. Also, Castle Stuart is only about 5 mins drive from Inverness Airport.

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Re: trains, planes and.... golf courses???
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 03:50:05 AM »

Perfect timing for this thread as I was just about to upload some pics of Royal Queensland GC in Australia.

Brisbane airport is very close and you hear and see planes starting and landing just hundreds of metres above you every 5 minutes, but the golf course is fantastic and plays in its own leauge of Brisbane Golf Courses. You'll see pics later tonight or later this week.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 04:04:13 AM »

Paraparaumu Beach has a smaller airport right next door which is about to undergo a major redevelopment that will allow for direct flights to/from Auckland.



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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 04:04:36 AM »

Here you go, RQ in spring with the 8th green in foreground:                (note the plane...)
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 04:41:25 AM »

There's an aerodrome (not really an airport but plenty of small private planes) immediately adjoining Denham, which also has its own railway station (Denham Golf Club Halt on the Chiltern line out of Marylebone).
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Re: trains, planes and.... golf courses???
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 05:56:34 AM »

RAF Manston is pretty close to Prince's and St. George's. Longest runway in the UK I'm told.

The Red Arrows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Arrows) "park" there when they're giving displays in the South and we are often treated to free practices. Last year one came over the course so low I swear you could see the pilot's face through the cockpit.

No real quality courses, but there are a fair few near Heathrow. At Hounslow Heath (a scruffy muni) the jumbos come over with their wheels down, and it feels like you can bounce a wedge off their underside (although you can't of course)
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 06:06:11 AM »

In the not so good old days of the "Troubles", Chinooks used to fly over one of the fairways on Hollywood GC (Rory McIlroy's home club) in County Down, and then drop down to a military base close by. When I first saw this, I was convinced the Chinook was in trouble and was making an emergency landing, as it came in so low. You had to stop playing as you'd easily hit it if you were playing your approach to the green.

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 06:43:49 AM »

What course is adjacent to the Orlando airport?  I dont think there is one by MCO, the main one.

Winged Pointe, an Art Hills design, abuts the Salt Lake City airport.

In fact you don't have to pull your drive much on 18 to be over the fence, in the airport, and OB.

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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2009, 06:52:15 AM »

Though I wouldn't call it great, in Fort Wayne there is a course that has an airport, railroad tracks and two state highways forming the boundaries of the property.  The locals refer to it as the planes, trains and automobiles course.  It's name is Brookwood.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 07:08:45 AM »

My current project at Sobienie outside Warsaw has its own airport and flying school. And a few weeks ago, we actually had a crash, but nobody was hurt !
Every time the client asks if I want to see the project from the plane, I always kindly refuse.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 07:11:43 AM »

Medinah makes you feel like you're playing on the infield of O'Hare International Airport.  Shocked
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 07:35:07 AM »

Isn't Cowboys CC right near the runways at DFW?
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 09:59:30 AM »

Has anyone here played California Golf Club?

It's right in the runway path of SFO....
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 10:01:54 AM »

Machrihanish, Moray, Inwood
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2009, 10:02:27 AM »

RAF Leuchars is across the estuary from The Old Course. The noise from the jets can be excruciatingly loud, especially during the Leuchars Air Show, featuring the 'Blue Angel' teams from the European countries in exhibition, when flying overhead at a couple of hundred feet.

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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2009, 10:03:11 AM »

Beverly could be named Transportation National.  We're on a direct runway for Midway Airport, located just six miles away.  Our course is bisected by an arterial street and hemmed in between another arterial street and a busy railroad line.  We are less than a mile away from a trauma center.  Planes, trains and ambulances.  Ah, sweet serenity on the urban links.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2009, 10:10:33 AM »

Metropolitan Links in Oakland is right near the aiirport as well.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2009, 10:49:18 AM »

Far too many are by airports evidently.  A few more:

Lossiemouth (and Royal Dornoch when training flights are going on)

TPC Scottsdale is very close to the Scottsdale airport, which is the airport used for private jets coming into Phoenix

Rainier Golf Club in Seattle is at one end of Sea Tac

Mayfair Lakes is at one end of Vancouver International Airport

And then to expand on the theme a little bit, Royal Regina is affectionately known by the  members as "Trains, Planes and Automobiles" because it is bordered on one side by the RCMP driving school, train tracks run along the other side, and beyond which is the Regina airport.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2009, 10:20:42 PM »

Kauai Lagoons too, also Navy in Seal Beach has got some real firepower  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2009, 10:52:53 PM »

I don't know about quality, but just outside Rapid City, SD there is a nine hole course next to Ellsworth Air Force base.
There is nothing like playing there when the B-1 Bombers are doing touch & goes:

This was a shot I took when I was headed to the Prairie Club last spring.
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2009, 12:09:44 AM »

There is a course in very close proximity to the Edmonton Airport - Blackhawk perhaps?
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2009, 02:27:18 AM »

Not a great course, but could take the cake as to proximity.  Shelter Cove, CA.



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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2009, 02:07:08 PM »

My guess is there will be lots of possibilities for this thread.

Here are three google images from the great state of Ohio.  None really count as great courses, but if you're interested in seeing if you can hit a plane with a nuked pitching wedge these might be for you:

First we have Reeves Golf Course, right by Lunken Airport near Cincinnati.  Reeves is known for poor drainage, being dead flat, and the possibility of dinging one of the small planes taking off and landing at Lunken.



Also in the Cincinnati area we have Blue Ash Golf Course, right across the street from Blue Ash Airport.  The course is in the flight path of the lone runway.  This airport is also for small planes, and they are not very far off the ground when they fly over the course.



Finally from Columbus we have, appropriately, Airport Golf Course.  This one butts up against Columbus's main airport so you get the full size commercial jets roaring in and out.

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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2009, 02:25:02 PM »

Medinah is 5.5 miles directly west of two of the busiest runways in the world, which both run directly east/west.  Itasca is less than 3.  They oughta give every member a wholesale discount on earplugs when they join...  

The old Glenview Naval Airbase course (which is where the Glen Club is now) was right there under the airstrip. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2009, 02:31:03 PM »

Cavalier in VA Beach lies very close to Oceana NAS--it gets very very loud....and I seem to recall very big planes overhead or perhaps more like on your head at Doral.
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2009, 03:00:24 PM »

My family vacations at Emerald Isle each summer.  Star Hills, a course just off the island, has a grass landing strip literally between holes on the golf course.  It's about the width of a typical par four.  There's nothing like addressing the ball and backing off because a plane is landing 30 yards away.

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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2009, 03:01:18 PM »

Sea Island. Lots of G5s flying by in the past. More prop planes recently though.
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2009, 04:24:42 PM »

Surprised that nobody has mentioned Inwood CC yet.  It's on the final approach to the main runway at JFK, just across the marsh ... used to be quite something to watch the Concordes come in every day.

Lossiemouth (Moray GC) is the most proximate I've played.  The landing towers are right across the fairways.  I played there while the Falklands War was on and the RAF was practicing more than usual ... I swear you could actually feel the heat of the Harriers' engines when they came over to land.
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2009, 04:27:24 PM »

The previously mentioned WingPointe here in SLC.



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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2009, 04:48:40 PM »

There's a pretty good view of SFO from Green Hills, also Shannon GC is alongside the fences of Shannon airport, plenty of guys must have seen it if they've flown in to Shannon.

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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2009, 05:53:24 PM »

Quote from: Terry Lavin on November 05, 2009, 10:03:11 AM
Beverly could be named Transportation National.  We're on a direct runway for Midway Airport, located just six miles away.  Our course is bisected by an arterial street and hemmed in between another arterial street and a busy railroad line.  We are less than a mile away from a trauma center.  Planes, trains and ambulances.  Ah, sweet serenity on the urban links.
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2009, 09:46:18 AM »

Butter Valley Golf Port
outside phila.
http://www.buttervalley.com/index.htm

runway goes right through the middle of the course

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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2009, 09:56:54 AM »

Back at home, my dad always called a certain course "Trains, Planes and Automobiles" after the Jon Candy movie. The is is called Thornapple Pointe GC and is a mid 90's, Bill Newcomb design. The course has a highway adjacent to the west of the property, and highway ajacent to the North of the property, train tracks that bisect the property and Gerald R Ford International Airport 1/4th mile to the West..too much noise!

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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2009, 10:17:39 AM »

Quote from: Will MacEwen on November 06, 2009, 12:09:44 AM
There is a course in very close proximity to the Edmonton Airport - Blackhawk perhaps?


That's probably Redtail Landing, looks like a decent course
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