The Reverse Old Course - Hole 18 and Conclusion

[Jeremy Glenn. (Guest)]

Well, that's that.  Four months later, and I've "brought this monster to its knees".

Was it worth it?

Undeniably.  Without a doubt, it has completely changed the way a look at a golf hole when I step onto a tee.  And has also changed the way I design them to begin with.

Thanks for all the faithful readers, and the positive comments that pushed me forward on those dark February nights.

So I'm outta here.  Got a tee time this afternoon, (after the hockey game, of course).

Cheers!  

Hole 18:
http://www.total.net/~jglenn/oldcourse/hole18.htm

Conclusion:
http://www.total.net/~jglenn/oldcourse/conclusion.htm

[ChrisB (Guest)]

Is the reverse 18th longer than the original 18th?  If so, would the road become more of a factor on the tee shot?

[Richard_Goodale]

Jeremy

When Bobby Jones, or McKenzie or others advised "us" to study TOC, I very much doubt that TROC was in their minds.  Nevertheless, if they were alive today, and lurking on GCA, I very much feel that they would look at your work and say, "Aha!" more than once.  It is that good.

You have opened up many of the mysteries and fascinations of routing and architectrural necessity and creativity with your work and I thank you deeply for it.

This is the best series of work I have yet seen on GCA, by far, and I would hope that you and Ran can agree to add it, in toto, to the website.  It deserves to be read and re-read by anybody interested in architecture and/or TOC.

All the best for now

Rich

[Dan Kelly]

Jeremy --

Great stuff, from beginning to end.

Or should that be: from end to beginning?

Either way, thanks.

[ian]

I've enjoyed your study as a lurker the whole way. Thanks it was a lot of fun.

[Paul Daley]

Jeremy:

Phew ... take in a deep breath, you've made it home. Yes, the most comprehensive piece yet undertaken on GCA.
Thanks for everything.

[Mike_Cirba]

Jeremy,

While I haven't agreed with every one of your hole modifications, your work on this has been consistently enjoyable and enormously thought-provoking.

Thank you for your efforts!

[John_Conley]

FINALLY HOME

Great work!

 

[RJ_Daley]

Jeremy, I will echo the praise of the others that you richly deserve for this winter fireside project.  While I have the link bookmarked, I hope you will keep it up on the web for sometime to come and also I believe it would be a great separate link for yet another button to push on the GCA list of features on the left part of the page.  Your work depicting TROC is the essence of golf course architecture or design to contemplate this most venerable of golf's sacred grounds to be so versitile as to play backwards.  If future webcruisers stumble onto this site and take the time to consider the TROC you have illustrated and described so well, they will in one foray into the subject matter have an opportunity to grasp the genius and magic of our shared passion for golf course designs.  Job well done you old Habitante!  

Here is wishing your man Zednick an enchanting trip and safe return from happy-happy land.  

[Jeremy Glenn. (Guest)]

Chris,

I believe the Reverse 18th would be (will be?) about 10-15 yards longer than the existing 18th, mostly because it cuts diagonally across rather than going directly up (Pythagorean Theorem and what have you... ).  So I don't know if such a difference would make Granny Clarkes Wynd more/less of a factor.  I guess it depends how far you hit your usual tee shot.

Mike,

So then tell us!  Which modifications do you not agree with?  This is the kind of feedback I've been trying to get.  Speak up, good friend.  (It's a discussion group, after all! )

[Ken_Cotner]

Anyone see any feedback on the reverse play on April 1?

KC