[Jamie Barber]

The suggestion that Silloth could somehow be incorporated in a Dornoch based BUDA suggests either that someone needs to buy a map or that they have acquired (or intend to acquire) a helicopter.

The suggestion was for a road trip to incorporate those on the way up, instead of part of BUDA itself. Not sure a road trip to Dornoch is my cup of tea from down south- especially in a Renault! I'd fly

[Bill_McBride]

Flying into Inverness brings Nairn and Castle Stuart into play immediately, and then Dornoch is not far.

[Robin_Hiseman]

Collect the keys of your hire car at Inverness and you can be unpacking your clubs at Castle Stuart 5 minutes later

[Bill_McBride]

Collect the keys of your hire car at Inverness and you can be unpacking your clubs at Castle Stuart 5 minutes later

So it's even closer than Nairn!

[Robin_Hiseman]

Collect the keys of your hire car at Inverness and you can be unpacking your clubs at Castle Stuart 5 minutes later

So it's even closer than Nairn!

About 1.5 miles!

[Mark Pearce]

The suggestion that Silloth could somehow be incorporated in a Dornoch based BUDA suggests either that someone needs to buy a map or that they have acquired (or intend to acquire) a helicopter.

The suggestion was for a road trip to incorporate those on the way up, instead of part of BUDA itself. Not sure a road trip to Dornoch is my cup of tea from down south- especially in a Renault! I'd fly

Indeed.  Some road trip, to include Silloth, Turnberry, Prestwick and some inland courses.  That's a lot of extra miles.

[Kalen Braley]

Just my two cents to speak up about an already in place outing...

I'm not sure how many KP'ers would be tempted to go otherwise, but the Kings Putter is in late May and would likely be a massive conflict with BUDA in the same month.  I realize its a different country and all but some who might attend both may otherwise only be able to attend 1 or the other.

There is also a Bandon Trip in this same time frame too which is likely going to bear some casulities on KP as well.

[Scott Warren]

The suggestion that Silloth could somehow be incorporated in a Dornoch based BUDA suggests either that someone needs to buy a map or that they have acquired (or intend to acquire) a helicopter.

Road trips need not always move in a straight line between the departure point and the destination!

[Rich Goodale]

Mark

I'll agree to disagree.  To me, and I think many others, where we go is far less important than who we go there with, as long as the venue is interesting and can foster camaraderie.

David

Point taken.

Kalen

There is not much overlap between KP and BUDA participants, but even if there were, the more competitions the merrier, IMHO.

Rich

[Scott Warren]

Holding Buda earlier might also allow some GCA members a bit of extra time to save cash/brownie points from the beloved/annual leave from work to make the journey to the inaugural as yet unnamed Aussie GCA event...

[Kalen Braley]

Rich,

True the overlap is small, but in the end a May Buda would just be cannabalizing that much more.  I agree the more the merrier but  this applies best on an event attendance basis, not events competing with each other basis. 

I've been holding an annual GCA.com Utah Open for 2 years now, but so far its only had an attendance of 1.    

[Gareth Williams]

I don't suppose we have any Nairn or Castle Stuart members............

Castle Stuart is pretty high on my list for 2010...would be good to get it ticked off so to speak.

[Bryan Izatt]

I'd be keen on a return to BUDA competition (with an appropriate handicap)    May/June works better for me.  I'm persuaded by the longer daylight hours then.  Any of the locations sound interesting, although West Sussex sounds slightly less so, being inland, and Machrihanish, because, as I recall, it's a long way to get there from anywhere that planes land.

Dornoch, as always sounds good.  I might even be persuaded to try Castle Stuart again, just to see if the course is really that good when not being blown away by the 40 mph gales.  Now, if there was a way to have all BUDA participants made honorary local residents for the duration of the visit to Castle Stuart, so much the better.

Mark, Scott,

I did the Silloth to Dornoch and back to Glasgow grand circle tour a few months ago and it is indeed a lot of miles (over 1,000), although certainly doable.   

[Anthony Gray]

  Dornach, Castle Stuart and Narian.

  Anthony

[Mark Pearce]

Mark

I'll agree to disagree.  To me, and I think many others, where we go is far less important than who we go there with, as long as the venue is interesting and can foster camaraderie.

Rich

Rich,

I'm not sure there's any disagreement on that point.  In fact I'd suggest that's another reason why the venue doesn't need to be a trophy course.  I'm sure you'd agree it wants to be an interesting course, though.  I also think BUDA is so well established that a club would have to be pretty dire for the BUDA camaraderie not to shine through, though this is an aspect in which Deal this year was particularly strong and a good reason to go somewhere where the GCA sponsor is well known and liked.  Now THAT might be a reason to head to prefer Dornoch or Pennard....

Mark

[Mark Pearce]

  Dornach, Castle Stuart and Narian.

  Anthony

Too much driving IMHO.  It's great to have courses for pre and post BUDA events but one of the strengths of BUDA has been having the two "event" courses close to each other, so that no-one has to worry about 90 minute drives the next morning.  Nairn and Castle Stuart would be ideal for pre/post events but Brora and Golspie are far more suitable "second venue" courses.

[Tony_Muldoon]

  Dornach, Castle Stuart and Narian.

  Anthony

Narian the one you get to through the wardbore?


(forgive me Anthony)

[Eric Smith]

  Dornach, Castle Stuart and Narian.

  Anthony

Narian the one you get to through the wardbore?


(forgive me Anthony)

Beware the white wihc

[Rich Goodale]

Mark (and David T)

Three of the reasons I like the Golspie idea:

1.  it is 10 miles closer to Dorncoh than Brora
2.  it is a new venue for even the most travelled BUDA participants, unlike Brora
3.  it is a very much underrated course, relative to Brora

Rich

[Mark Bourgeois]

Mark

I'll agree to disagree.  To me, and I think many others, where we go is far less important than who we go there with, as long as the venue is interesting and can foster camaraderie.

Rich

Rich,

I'm not sure there's any disagreement on that point.  In fact I'd suggest that's another reason why the venue doesn't need to be a trophy course.  I'm sure you'd agree it wants to be an interesting course, though.  I also think BUDA is so well established that a club would have to be pretty dire for the BUDA camaraderie not to shine through, though this is an aspect in which Deal this year was particularly strong and a good reason to go somewhere where the GCA sponsor is well known and liked.  Now THAT might be a reason to head to prefer Dornoch or Pennard....

Mark

I think RDGC is strengthened by your criteria, provided it is modified to read "sponsor is well known or liked."

The biggest strike against RDGC stems from my personal sense of this board's growing dissoluteness.  (Thomas Gresham would find plenty to keep his thoughts occupied on here.)  I'm with Rich on choosing venues that don't appeal to the box-ticking mentality.

[John Mayhugh]

I'll go wherever, but preference for next year would be the Netherlands in the fall.   Here's a good reason why.

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,31942.0/

 

[Bill_McBride]

Mark, please elaborate!  ..."my personal sense of this board's growing dissoluteness"

 

[Mark Bourgeois]

Bill, my answer lies in the post.

John M -- Noordwijkse is enormously disappointing.  That said, the club is very inviting, the clubhouse wonderful, and the grown-ups beach alluring.

Kennemer lies in contrast, both for its courses and for the nature of the club.

Lastly, a BeNe Buda would suffer off-course.  For one thing, there's too much to do and none of that is centered around golf.

[David_Tepper]

Rich -

I would certainly not object in any way to some portion of the BUDA being held at Golspie. There is a good chance I will not be the only GCA-er who is a Golspie member by next May.

However, as a matter of fact, I do not think Brora is more than a 7-mile drive beyond Golspie. How about a morning round at one and an afternoon round at the other?

DT 

[Mark Pearce]

David,

I think two courses in one day sounds rather too hit and run for BUDA.  Half the fun is leisurely lunches and associated banter.

Mark

I'm confused.  I thought it was me who was being anti-box-ticking mentality?

Mark

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