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Bill_McBride

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2009, 11:47:29 AM »
Quote from: Mark Bourgeois on September 27, 2009, 08:38:18 AM

Delamere belongs in the second rank but worthy of mention.

Marcus, how could you overlook Beau Desert if you recalled Delamere?   ??? ;D
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Mike_Trenham

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2009, 12:24:32 PM »
Lahinch
Waterville
Torry Pines
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Jeff Doerr

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2009, 12:51:14 PM »
Quote from: Michael Dugger on September 27, 2009, 02:35:26 AM
Wine Valley


Truly a downhill hole on a great walkable course...



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David_Madison

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2009, 01:00:45 PM »
Alpine - maybe not one of the greats, but pretty darn good.
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Dean DiBerardino

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2009, 01:26:10 PM »
Longue Vue in Pittsburgh...
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ChipOat

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2009, 03:16:49 PM »
Sean Leary beat me to it - Stonewall may not be Pac Dunes, but it's still darn good.
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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2009, 03:36:18 PM »
Quote from: Bill_McBride on September 27, 2009, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Mark Bourgeois on September 27, 2009, 08:38:18 AM

Delamere belongs in the second rank but worthy of mention.

Marcus, how could you overlook Beau Desert if you recalled Delamere?   ??? ;D

Billus, didn't overlook it! (A plea for restoration.)
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Brian_Ewen

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2009, 04:55:18 PM »
Wasnt the OP a downhill hole from tee to green ?

Some of these look like a downhill tee shot , to flat fairway second shot ?
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mark chalfant

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2009, 05:04:46 PM »
The  18th  at the University of Michigan drops quite a bit
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Patrick Glynn

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2009, 05:49:04 PM »
18 at Lahinch is downhill?? News to me!
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2009, 09:53:22 PM »
Pat,
Yep, hence the "tee-to-green" disclaimer. I've never been there but the second shot looks to be a bit uphill.

James,
Exactly - I started thinking about the question from Pat Mucci's "Doomed" thread.

It's interesting that people have mentioned a lot of nice courses that end with tee-to-green downhill holes, but only SFGC (barely) and Congressional from the Top 50 or even Top 100. If the question were about finishing holes that play uphill tee-to-green, you'd have Augusta, Shinnecock, Cypress Point, NGLA, and Sand Hills just from the Top 10, with Oakland Hills, Riviera, Bethpage, Muirfield Village, and Baltusrol not far behind.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2009, 09:57:43 PM »
Here's another vote for Wine Valley,

I would also add that Pacific Dunes is a net downhill from tee to green (I think), even though the 2d shot is played uphill.

The other course I would nominate is Saddle Creek in Northern Cali.....a very neat downhill par 5 finisher.
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mike_beene

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2009, 10:23:08 PM »
Gullane 1,Colonial. I think Pine Needles qualifies since that is how it is played now.The most underated course in the world in my view.
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Rich Goodale

Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2009, 12:32:35 AM »
Stanford
Gleneagles (Kings)
Cinnabar Hills (Canyon?)
Strathpeffer

...and from the pictures only (haven't played)

Kington


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JNC Lyon

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2009, 12:39:16 AM »
Yeamans Hall--great downhill par five closer to a classic Raynor layout.
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Sean_A

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2009, 01:55:58 AM »
The best courses I can recall with at least a decent downhiller 18th:

Woking (just)
Kington
Beau Desert
Tenby
Southerndown

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Mike Benham

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2009, 02:18:55 AM »
Quote from: Matt_Cohn on September 26, 2009, 10:18:31 PM
   
Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green

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How about Best Downhill tee-to-green 18th hole?  (regardless of the quality of the rest of the course ...)
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Andrew Mitchell

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2009, 05:17:34 AM »
Quote from: Sean Arble on September 28, 2009, 01:55:58 AM
The best courses I can recall with at least a decent downhiller 18th:

Woking (just)
Kington
Beau Desert
Tenby
Southerndown

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Surprised you left Notts off that list Sean although, having not played any of the ones listed except Beau, they could all be crackers.
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Sean_A

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2009, 05:34:40 AM »
Quote from: Andrew Mitchell on September 28, 2009, 05:17:34 AM
Quote from: Sean Arble on September 28, 2009, 01:55:58 AM
The best courses I can recall with at least a decent downhiller 18th:

Woking (just)
Kington
Beau Desert
Tenby
Southerndown

Ciao

Surprised you left Notts off that list Sean although, having not played any of the ones listed except Beau, they could all be crackers.

Andrew

Yes, I could easily throw in Notts.  I will tick off Woking because the downhill nature of the hole is really insignificant whereas the final hole at Notts does have the break away approach once the ball is on the green.

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Bill Satterfield

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2009, 11:57:07 AM »
Sebonack (Is that downhill enough?), Kapalua, Spanish Peaks, Glenwild, Stonebrae . . .
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Brian Brady

Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2009, 02:00:14 PM »
Would the Camargo Club qualify?  I remember teeing off well above the fairway, but I can't remember if the second shot into the green was downhill.  Either way, it was a strong finish to one of my favorite rounds of golf.
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SPDB

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2009, 02:48:39 PM »
I agree with Pat. The first course that came to my mind was Pine Valley.

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Richard Choi

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Re: Best course where the 18th hole plays downhill tee-to-green
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2009, 03:04:23 PM »
One of the most famous 18th - Kapalua!

Doesn't get more downhill than this hole.

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