[Garland Bayley]

From

http://www.golf.com/golf/courses_travel/article/0,28136,1917694,00.html

Ten to Watch: Watch Out, Top 100! These Tracks Are Hot on Your Tail
...
The Cliffs at High Carolina
Asheville, N.C.
Tiger Woods has two other courses in the works — one in Dubai, another in Mexico — but High Carolina is his first U.S. design. Slated to open next year, the course is draped across a mountain meadow in the heart of Blue Ridge country. We know Tiger can play, but can he design? We're about to find out.

[Lawrence Largent]

From what I understand they haven't even broke ground on High Carolina.  I had asked a friend who lives in Asheville about the course and he said they were still in the permit stages.

Lawrence

[Garland Bayley]

http://web.tigerwoods.com/design/img/high_cliffs_rendering.pdf

[Greg Chambers]

If you go one small step further and click on the link, you'll see that the course was built in 2010.  Did I miss something???

[Scott Warren]

Not a single green bunkered on both sides...

[PCCraig]

Par-71 with three par-3's on the front side?

Looks Fazio-esque from the air.

[Garland Bayley]

If you go one small step further and click on the link, you'll see that the course was built in 2010.  Did I miss something???

Golf magazine was speculating that it would crack their next top 100 after it opens. It's called hype!

[Michael Whitaker]

Par-71 with three par-3's on the front side?

Looks Fazio-esque from the air.

Tiger's lead designer is Beau Welling who spent 10-12 years with Tom Fazio. Beau now has his own design firm, Beau Welling Design, based out of Asheville, NC.

[Philippe Binette]

no matter whether the course is great or bad, it's going to be in the top 100 just because it's Tiger and no rankers would have the guts to sink him down if needed

[PThomas]

no matter whether the course is great or bad, it's going to be in the top 100 just because it's Tiger and no rankers would have the guts to sink him down if needed

i think a lot of them would..its not like they are personal friends of his, so who cares what his reaction is?

[Anthony Gray]

  This has GRUDGE MATCH 2 wtittin all over it.


   Anthony

[Garland Bayley]

  This has GRUDGE MATCH 2 wtittin all over it.


   Anthony

DM vs MC?

[Philippe Binette]

If Tiger Woods invites you to the opening, fly you in and then you can spend a day with another 100 so-called raters chatting along with Tiger telling you how great is new course is (it might be great for real...)... and you think, that course is garbage... would you tell him.

[PThomas]

If Tiger Woods invites you to the opening, fly you in and then you can spend a day with another 100 so-called raters chatting along with Tiger telling you how great is new course is (it might be great for real...)... and you think, that course is garbage... would you tell him.

they dont fly raters in Philippe!

and i doubt the course will be garbage...but i dont think anyone should assume it will be great a Doak 7 or above automatically

and if pressed i think one could offer contructive criticism in a diplomatic fashion

[Philippe Binette]

I doubt it's going to be garbage too, of course... but I wouldn't be surprised to see it past Cruden Bay or North Berwick, if you know what I mean

[PThomas]

I doubt it's going to be garbage too, of course... but I wouldn't be surprised to see it past Cruden Bay or North Berwick, if you know what I mean

oh i agree with your last thought...but i sure hope those who do rate it wont automatically give it a 9 or 10 just cause its Tiger...and most if not all raters i know wouldnt do that

[mark chalfant]

There are some very nice courses in North Carolina ,so if his layout cracks the top 100 in Tar Heel state that's  an accomplishment !

[jim_lewis]

You guys must be joking. You can be sure that when I rate it, I will try hard not to be influenced negatively by the fact that Tiger is associated with. That is always a challenge when evaluating a course "designed" by a touring pro. As much as I love him, I rarely have given a high rating to an Arnold Palmer course. I have occasionally been pleasantly surprised (some Love and Norman courses come to mind). Maybe I will be this time. Maybe not. In any case, no one outside of the magazine staff will know my rating, certainly not Tiger.

Jim Lewis

[Jonathan Webb]

discoverhighcarolina.com

[Matthew Schulte]

It is obviously difficult to determine much from a routing rendering however I have a few observations:

All of the first 5 greens are set at an angle for a draw shot for a right handed golfer.

Note how almost every green is shaped like a peanut.  Almost all are wide at the front and back and pinch together near the center of the green.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of variety in terms of fairway width or green size either. 

Would you expect a little more creativity and/or variety for his design fee? 

[Abe Summers]

Matthew, I don't think setting up the first 5 holes for a right handed golfer has any relationship with the future rankings, but when they host a Tiger - Phil match play event well then I'd have to say you could earn a tidy sum betting on Phil because everything seems to be pointing towards a Tiger 8 and 7 or somesuch.

[Tiger_Bernhardt]

I hope this course get completed. Naturally I hope it is very good. I found the article hypish and not worthy of GCA giving it credibility.

[Emil Weber]

Awesome! 5 greens angled from front right to back left to start the round 

[Jim Colton]

No mention of Rock Creek in the 'Next 10'.  'Severe greens' is what held it back in the Best New Private category after it came out, and I'm assuming this perception is what is keeping it out of the Top 100 (or 110).

[George Pazin]

If you go one small step further and click on the link, you'll see that the course was built in 2010.  Did I miss something???

We all went black and woke up 3 years later, it's now 2012.

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