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Jim Colton

Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« on: September 05, 2009, 08:54:33 AM »
I was looking at the new GolfBlog100 results for the U.S., and only saw one course on the list from the 1940's and none from the 1950's.  What are considered the best golf courses from these two decades of the dark ages?  What about them has helped differentiate them from the pack and stood the test of time?

Possible Candidates (I'm sure I'm missing some and I could have the years wrong):
1940's
Peachtree (1947)
Dunes Golf & Beach (1949)

1950's
NCR (1954)
Torrey Pines (1957)
Point O'Woods (1958)
Bellerive (1959)
Laurel Valley (1959)
Champions (1959)


Jason McNamara

Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 02:17:27 PM »
Old Warson is '54, iirc.

David Stamm

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 03:56:03 PM »
Torrey Pines was never rated before the Open and is a product of the "flavr of the month" syndrome. There is nothing to explain it "standing the test of time" because it was never highly thought of beforehand.


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Tim Gavrich

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 04:42:23 PM »
On the public side, I'd nominate the Tanglewood in NC, opened in 1956.

The Patterson Club is an RTJ Sr. course that is very well-regarded in CT, opened in 1947.
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Tom MacWood

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 09:21:18 AM »
You could argue the redesign of Oakland Hills was the biggest event in the 50s...and Turnberry if you are looking worldwide.

Jason McNamara

Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 05:55:46 PM »
...and Turnberry if you are looking worldwide.

Further down the coast, Southerness is class of 1947

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 08:11:30 AM »
Seven Oaks was designed by RTJ Senior in 1934...the first nine was complete in 1956...the second in 1964...that averages out to March, 1951.

I find it to be an incredible 17-hole golf course, with one par five that is goofy and does not reach the high standards of the rest of the course.  Being told to hit 3-metal off the tee of a long hole is not my idea of consistent architecture.  Perhaps when designed, he did not anticipate the advances to come.

That aside, the first three holes get you sprinting!  The first green is enormous and tiered from back to front.  Expect to face a bomb on the first green and don't be disappointed with a 3-whack for starters.  The second is the gorgeous, uphill pitch of a par three that you see on the course web site (http://www.sevenoaksgolf.com/).  The tee shot is daunting, but the chipping and putting, more so.  I had a knee-knocker of an eight footer for birdie and made it, but did so with trepidation.  The first putt is all about avoiding the fourth one, such are the internal contours.  The third hole takes you out and away, off a perch to a deceptively wide fairway below, then rolling on to a green sighted at fairway level.

What I liked most about this was the Annakin-Darth Vader counteraction.  Trent gives you a hole (#16) where you recognize many of the features that ultimately took him away from traditional architecture, but follows it up with one (#17) where you see that not all hope was lost in the man.  He did create Travis-esque or Ross-esque or Tilly-esque holes when the mood struck.
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BCrosby

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 10:26:41 AM »
There were very few courses built in the 1940's, so it's not surprising that there aren't many in the rankings. P'tree is clearly the class of the group, though it appears to be sliding down the lists in recent years.

As Tom MacW notes, the biggest event in the 50's wasn't new courses, but rather RTJ's "Monster Course" redo's for the USGA. Those juiced up courses had a huge impact on gca in that decade and over the decades that followed.

In many respects P'tree can be seen as a precursor of the Monster Course idea. Which is why it is such an important course historically.

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mark chalfant

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 11:19:17 AM »
Rockrimmon   1949-1950

An excellent course co-authored by Robert Trent Jones Sr. and Orrin Smith. The routing glides over charming, hilly land in northwest  Connecticut.

K. Krahenbuhl

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 12:04:15 PM »
There was the completion of the 18 hole course at Prairie Dunes in 1957.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Best Golf Course by Decade? 1940's & 1950's
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2009, 01:21:10 PM »
Rockrimmon looks more southeast than northwest CT.
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