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David Kelly

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2009, 03:56:26 PM »
Quote from: Mark Smolens on August 21, 2009, 03:39:23 PM
Are those the same oddsmakers who had agreed to pay off their TW bets on Saturday night??

That was Paddy Power.  They are on that list.  I think the guy who runs it lost 1.2M pounds when Woods didn't win and would have lost 5M pounds if Harrington had won.  Leave it to the Irish to screw up bookmaking (I kid).
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Richard Choi

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2009, 04:27:25 PM »
One thing you guys should consider is that the OCC will require that the hosting course be pretty open. That means that any club that does not have some minority members and women members will not get a chance to host an Olympic event.
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Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2009, 12:32:42 PM »
Quote from: Dale_McCallon on August 20, 2009, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: Paul OConnor on August 20, 2009, 12:34:45 PM
Wow, how far in front of the horse is this cart?  A course that has not yet opened, is not yet complete, which has never hosted a tournament, let alone a major golf event, completely inaccessable by public transportation, and they want to host Olympic Golf?   

Good luck.

Wasn't the Ryder Cup given to Kiawah before it was finished?

The Ocean Course opened for play in May of 1991.  The Ryder Cup was held in September...
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Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2009, 01:06:15 PM »
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PCCraig

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2009, 01:43:16 PM »
Quote from: Paul Richards on August 25, 2009, 01:06:15 PM
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Paul -

There are some interesting looking holes there. Hard to judge from the air, but there is potential. When will the course actually open...it looks ready to play now.
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J_ Crisham

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2009, 08:26:41 PM »
Paul,  I saw the pictures earlier and from what I have personally seen onsite things are shaping up nicely at CH. This will definitely be a players course given the length should they chose to stretch it out. Very nice elevation changes. My hope is that guys would refrain from criticism until they see it. I understand you guys are hoping for a April opening?
                                         Wish you well,   Jack
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Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2009, 12:06:15 PM »
Jack

You make a great point - "...guys would refrain from criticism until they see it"

That is the least that one could ask for.

And I believe that opening will indeed be next spring. 


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JR Potts

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2009, 08:46:46 PM »
Quote from: Paul Richards on August 26, 2009, 12:06:15 PM
"...guys would refrain from criticism until they see it"



If that were the mantra of this site (one which I would support), the discussion level of this site would drop by 90%.
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Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2009, 04:00:59 PM »
Hello,

Scott Szybowicz, a Chicago based teaching pro, met me at the course last week.  Please follow the link below to read the posting on his blog.

www.thegolfingblog.com

 
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David Kelly

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2009, 11:35:37 AM »
Well so much for that.
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J Sadowsky

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2009, 11:38:34 AM »
Quote from: David Kelly on October 02, 2009, 11:35:37 AM
Well so much for that.

So where to host the Rio golf tournament? :)
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PThomas

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2009, 11:47:33 AM »
there's more important things to take care of in Chicago than the Olympics
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David Kelly

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2009, 01:29:53 PM »
Quote from: Paul Thomas on October 02, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
there's more important things to take care of in Chicago than the Olympics

Yeah, I'm sure the Chicago politicians are going to get right on that now.
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Phil McDade

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2009, 02:32:03 PM »
Dave:

I really don't think the presence of the Obamas would've made a difference either way. There are lots of politics involved in the election of the Olympic site, of course, but I think the Obamas and Da' Mayor mis-construed the kind of politics at play here. I think Rio got it because: a) Rio's pitch was centered on the status of South America being the only continent not to have hosted the Summer Games; and b) in the world of international sporting politics, Pele is a much larger figure than either Barack or Michelle.
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Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2009, 02:55:24 PM »
>Pele is a much larger figure than either Barack or Michelle.

Wow.  Don't let them hear you say that.

 ;)
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Tim_Cronin

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2009, 03:00:57 PM »
I wrote in 2007 that it would be Madrid because of the old-boy network in the IOC. Old man Samarach was from Spain, his kid was running the Spanish Olympic Committee and fronting the Madrid bid, and they know how to twist arms while throwing a party. But the old boy may have overextended himself when he said, in so many words, "Vote for Madrid because I'd like to see it happen before I kick." So do you want to vote for an Olympics that might include a wake or one with naked beach volleyball?
Who votes for who isn't made public, but the vote seemed to go along continental lines in round 1, with Rio getting all the later support.
Round 1: Madrid 28, Rio 26, Tokyo 22, Chicago 18.
Round 2: Rio 46, Madrid 29, Tokyo 20.
Round 3: Rio 66, Madrid 32.
As Tip O'Neill said, "All politics is local." In Chicago, there's another saying: "We don't want nobody nobody sent."
This saves Chicago the headache of seven years of road construction followed by seven years of indictments.
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Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2009, 03:03:23 PM »
I'm just dumbfounded that Obama put his political capital on the line without knowing the outcome?  Very unpresidential and pretty stupid for the smartest man on the planet...
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Tim_Cronin

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2009, 03:13:36 PM »
Quote from: Mike Vegis @ Kiawah on October 02, 2009, 03:03:23 PM
I'm just dumbfounded that Obama put his political capital out without knowing the outcome?  Very unpresidential and pretty stupid for the smartest man on the planet...

I'm sure the PMs of Spain and Japan are feeling the same way today. Hey, there's only one winner, and it's not like they can't bid again. Beijing lost before winning, and Athens' loss for the centennial Games of 1996 to Atlanta is still a stunner. Of course, you could bribe IOC delegates then. That went out the window with the Salt Lake City scandal, and took away a probable Chicago maneuver.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2009, 03:14:32 PM »
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Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2009, 05:26:23 PM »
>This saves Chicago the headache of seven years of road construction followed by seven years of indictments.

This is exactly why Tim Cronin is my favorite sports writer!


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Jason McNamara

Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2009, 06:35:35 PM »
The best snark I heard was the Chicago cronies didn't cut in the IOC cronies for enough of the action.
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Ian Andrew

Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2009, 06:52:59 PM »
Dudes,

"The olympics have never been in South America"

They opened with that fact in their presentation. Brilliant.

They got this one right

 .... and saved Chicago a fortune!
I can understand why any city would take this on with all the costs and losses that come with it.
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Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2009, 08:31:27 PM »
Quote from: Justin Sadowsky on October 02, 2009, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: David Kelly on October 02, 2009, 11:35:37 AM
Well so much for that.

So where to host the Rio golf tournament? :)
There are two Stanley Thompson courses in Rio - Gavea and Itanhanga.  How much of Stanley's work that remains is a good question.

No offense to you guys from Chicago but I have been to both Chicago and Rio several times and Rio has a lot more flare than Chicago.  Copacabana and Ipanema are much nicer than any beaches in Chicago.
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Jud_T

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2009, 08:45:48 PM »
Can anyone tell me of an Arthur Hillls design that is really first rate?  I have yet to play one...
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Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Chicago Highlands and the Olympic Golf Tournament
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2009, 09:34:31 PM »
Quote from: Ian Andrew on October 02, 2009, 06:52:59 PM
I can understand why any city would take this on with all the costs and losses that come with it.
Ian - I assume that is a typo and you meant to say can't.  So then I guess you wouldn't be the chair of the Brantford 2020 bid?

But it would be pretty cool if the first Olympic golf event in over a century was on a (at least nominally) Stanley Thompson course.
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