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Phil McDade

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Re: Padraig vs. Tiger - Match of the Year?
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2009, 01:04:35 PM »
And this, too...

Is there any better evidence, once posited by the previous poster, than Firestone this past weekend demonstrating that Tiger's competitors are all a bunch of (thanks to Dottie Pepper) choking freakin' dogs when stared down by the Man?

Watson, tied with Jack, chipped in at Pebble on 17th; Trevino took Jack's best shots at Muirfield; Player outplayed Jack down the stretch at Carnoustie. Harrington rightly gets put on the clock and throws up on himself down the stretch.


Bill_McBride

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Re: Padraig vs. Tiger - Match of the Year?
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2009, 01:07:00 PM »
And this, too...

Is there any better evidence, once posited by the previous poster, than Firestone this past weekend demonstrating that Tiger's competitors are all a bunch of (thanks to Dottie Pepper) choking freakin' dogs when stared down by the Man?

Watson, tied with Jack, chipped in at Pebble on 17th; Trevino took Jack's best shots at Muirfield; Player outplayed Jack down the stretch at Carnoustie. Harrington rightly gets put on the clock and throws up on himself down the stretch.


That might have been the ugliest shot I've ever seen by a top level player, i.e. Paddy's attempted flop shot from behind the green at #16 skulled into the pond.   :P

At least he didn't pitch it onto the back of the green and play to be one down with two to go.

Carl Nichols

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Re: Padraig vs. Tiger - Match of the Year?
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2009, 01:13:08 PM »
I particularly enjoyed the end of the Saturday round, where Tim Clark and Harrington were on the fringe and on the 18th green with about 5 minutes left in the telecast, then Clark chipped on and Harrington had 2 minutes to putt before CBS signed off and he barely got his ball marked in that time, let alone hit the putt.  They had to extend the coverage until he putted.  Nantz was like "we think we'll get this in" then he was like "folks, we've got 30 seconds left so we might be able to get this in" (but, laughably, you could still see Harrington with his ball in his hand, so you knew there was no chance...) and then Nantz, exasperated, finally said "there's no way we're going to get this in before we sign off".

It was pathetic.  

Yes, it was. 

As for Sunday, I kept wondering when Tiger and Padraig were going to be put in the clock because it seemed like they were 2 holes behind the group in front of them.  As it turns out, there was another group in there that wasn't getting any attention (the Jimenez group), so they were only about a hole behind. 

As a general matter, I'm a little surprised that a final group that's going to finish right around 4 hours gets put on the clock.  Does a group's actual time matter, or is it really all about falling behind the group in front?

mike_malone

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Re: Padraig vs. Tiger - Match of the Year?
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2009, 01:21:48 PM »
 While I said the layout of Firestone is pedesrtrian, it does seem to have some interesting elevation changes , fairway contours, and greens.
AKA Mayday

Chris Buie

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Re: Padraig vs. Tiger - Match of the Year?
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2009, 01:22:19 PM »
I agree that these guys take way too long.  I think it would be better if they have a nice preemptive talk behind closed doors.  "You know Padraig, you don't have to wait for the other guy to putt out before you start to line up your putt."  If Padraig has had such a talk then maybe he deserved a dramatic reprimand.  
If they had not talked this through with Mr. Harrington then I think interrupting at that point was the wrong way to deal with it.  It was a very good match until that point.  

Dan_Callahan

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Re: Padraig vs. Tiger - Match of the Year?
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2009, 01:58:07 PM »
The last player penalized a shot for slow play on the PGA Tour was Dillard Pruitt at the 1982 Byron Nelson Classic.

What a joke.

JLahrman

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Re: Padraig vs. Tiger - Match of the Year?
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2009, 02:05:26 PM »
The last player penalized a shot for slow play on the PGA Tour was Dillard Pruitt at the 1982 Byron Nelson Classic.

What a joke.

It must have been so traumatic that he went and regained his amateur status.

I don't know why Harrington felt rushed, since nobody has been penalized in 27 years.  There's all this 'on the clock' business, but when do you actually punish someone?  I don't see why you can't penalize the last group, I don't know the specifics of their pace, but I don't know why it should be different.  They shouldn't be falling behind the guys in front of them (who were only a couple of birdies away from being in the thick of things, it's not like they were under considerably less pressure).  Actually shouldn't the last group be the fastest because they're hitting fewer shots?

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