[Mike_Young]

A few days/weeks ago while Jeff Brauer was bleeding all that Ross Tartan Plaid  ( he says it I didn't)..he mentioned edges and how much we spend on them....he's right....a disproportionate amount of the modern budget is spent on them and as a supt mentioned n an earlier post....not many supts can afford to quit maintaining them out of fear for their jobs....
How much do you think we can save if we ease of edges?  20 percent of budget???
to begin...
We have irrigation heads in all these areas..
constant mowing around treed areas out of play
mulching
removal of second canopy layer on a constant basis instead of once per year
pruning
WHAT ELSE.....it may be our first line of defense when it comes to saving playing surfaces and cutting expenses in this new day.....
Yes or no?

[Phil_the_Author]

There is absolutely no need for a short fringe area surrounding the putting surfaces. All the great classic courses were designed without them.

[Bob_Huntley]

There is absolutely no need for a short fringe area surrounding the putting surfaces. All the great classic courses were designed without them.

Philip,

I agree completely. Go back to the tape on the Open Championship, the British Senior Open and the British Womens Open and see the devilish final roll into a bunker wihout the back-stop of a fringe. They should be "utterly cryit doon. "

Bob

[Brad Swanson]

Hi Mike,
  After a recent visit to Ballyneal I was thinking about the same basic thing.  Particularly with regards to maintenance of the rough  The  rough as it blends into the native is similar to the rough at Greywalls up at Marquette in spots in that you could get a lie in long grass, on hardpan, or in something in between (which is usually the worst.  This type of rough appears to be very low maintenance, inflicts a penalty (with an element of randomness that some might not like), and also lets the really poorly played shot bounce off to areas and hazards that long, lush rough would prevent.  I like it.  It can bey a bit easier to find your ball in this type of rough too, speeding up play.

Cheers,
Brad   

[Jeff_Brauer]

Bunker Edges, Cart Path Edges....not quite the same outer edges MY is talking about, but costly nonetheless. 

[Brad Swanson]

Not sure of the maintenance of the bunker edges at Ballyneal, but the edges of the bunkers at Greywalls are pretty low maintenance, but have that trendy frilly edge look (which some are starting to not like so much)  When the edges of these hazards are kept as such, the edges can become a bigger hazard than the hazard itself.

That these areas to the periphery are irrigated in many instances is a design problem, or a maintenance problem?

[Bill_McBride]

One thing that's driving me crazy at our club is the irrigation system that waters some of our waste bunkers.  As a result there are weeds and grass growing in these theoretically sandy areas.  It's starting to get very scruffy looking and will cost a lot to clean up when there is budget to do so.  I think half heads should have been installed along the 'edges' of these waste areas.

Good thing I'm no longer on the Green Committee........

The white area up ahead (photo from 2006) is now full of plant materials, a lot of it weeds..........aaarggghhhh.  This is more of a maintenance issue than a design issue but I think is caused by an irrigation design issue.

[Mike_Young]

Bunker Edges, Cart Path Edges....not quite the same outer edges MY is talking about, but costly nonetheless.  

Jeff,
I knew that and that's what got me to thinking about other edges.....but the one you mention that is extremely costly is the bunker edging....just look at ANGC from the late 70's and there is a dramatic difference.....
Yesterday I was on a tee and the guy with me was a supt and the outer back edges were dry and brown....he wanted the smaller commercial heads...and I was thinking to myself....this little area has not one thing to do with the quality of this golf course other than what is expected of that supt....tough call for those guys....

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