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Jay Flemma

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2010, 02:13:56 PM »
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Tyler Ince

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #101 on: May 04, 2010, 03:57:06 PM »
Even better than a road, courses in Scotland and Ireland that have stone walls that come into play.  Notably North Berwick in Scotland which is famous for "the pit".  One of the top courses I have played as far as a course with "character".  Then Tralee which might have one of the most fun 9 holes around.
'til the Road Hole....

Mike Demetriou

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #102 on: May 04, 2010, 05:43:40 PM »
Yeamans Hall #1 plays over the entrance road as well...

Peter Ferlicca

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2010, 06:15:53 PM »
It would be pretty hard to beat San Gabriel CC #18 tee shot.  This is one hole where you are penalized if you play the middle tees.  You better get that ball up quick!

Greg Tallman

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #104 on: May 04, 2010, 06:17:29 PM »
Mid Ocean is not the only course in Bermuda to play over a road:

Port Royal #2
St. George's #14

I can't recall much of the other courses but I seem to recall others do so as well. Land is a bit tight on the island.

Mike Demetriou

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2010, 06:20:10 PM »
Peter, that might be the "story beater" pic.  WOW. Awesome photo...

Kevin Pallier

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #106 on: May 04, 2010, 08:04:53 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 08:07:15 PM by Kevin Pallier »

Greg Tallman

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #107 on: May 05, 2010, 04:43:28 PM »
Given it is an oft discussed course here ahs anyone mentioned Greenbrier Old White #1?

Jaeger Kovich

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #108 on: May 05, 2010, 07:58:57 PM »
Just saw one on monday.. 18 at Fenway in Scarsdale, NY

Matt Langan

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #109 on: May 05, 2010, 08:04:00 PM »
Three holes (#13, #14, and #17) at Louisville Country Club play over the same road. I don't think they used to, but the course has had a number of renovations over the past couple of decades, and the small road couldn't be moved/destroyed (it is the only way to get to a number of homes). I don't prefer it, but it definitely does create an interesting dynamic (you have to time the shots!).


Mark Arata

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #110 on: May 05, 2010, 08:54:31 PM »
I believe a few holes at Leatherstocking play over a road.

Which holes play over a road at Atlantic City? Was that pre renovation? I dont remember playing over a road there.

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Jason Connor

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #111 on: May 05, 2010, 10:23:04 PM »
Schenley Park Golf Course in Pittsburgh crosses a well traveled city road on 3 holes.

In fact there is a sign at each end of the road declaring that risk is assumed by the drivers, that neither the golfer nor the course is responsible for damage -- and the sign lists the city ordinance declaring it.  There are also lots of cyclists and walkers on this road because the golf course separate the Squirrel Hill neighborhood from Carnegie Mellon (and lots of profs & students live in Squirrel Hill).

#2 is a dog leg right par 4.  First shot is parallel to the road.  Then you hit  a wedge over the road to the green.  There is actually a chain link fence that boarders the road about 8 feet high but with a 2 foot gap at the bottom.  You have to hit your drive left of the fence so you have room to wedge over the fence.  The fence prohibits skulled shots from killing drivers/walkers/cyclists.  You can see the shadow of the fence parallel to the road (on the north) if you look closely.



The other two crossings are far less dangerous.  Both holes (which are side-by-side) are 300 yard par 4s, I think they're 8 & 17. The tees and greens are elevated and the road is in the valley.  Basically drives just bang into the side of the hill.  If you're lucky the ball sticks and you have an uphill wedge/punch. If you're unlucky the ball rolls all the way back to the bottom of the hill and you have a long, very uphill 2nd shot.  The trees look like they're in the way of the tee shot, but they're well below both the tees & the greens because the valley is deep.



Awful course.  But cheap and right next to campus!

Funny this is my advisor in grad school lived just on the other side of the course from campus.  So mornings I'd play I would be on the lookout for him walking to school and try to hide if I saw him coming.

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Nick Campanelli

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #112 on: May 06, 2010, 11:52:30 AM »
Shennecossett (CT) #1, and #10. 
Landscape Architect  //  Golf Course Architect

Brett Hochstein

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #113 on: May 11, 2010, 06:00:30 AM »
Elie #9
St Andrews Balgove and Jubilee
RTJ Course Cornell #8 (also telephone lines)
Boyne Highlands Heather
and a personal favorite I just got to experience, Tain #1 and 18.  There are fences as well and sheep grids at the crossing points.
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Gerry B

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #114 on: May 12, 2010, 02:08:12 AM »
many mentioned aleady
mid ocean 4 - lovely hole14 / 15-hit a bus once there wit a second shot
scarboro's 18th
yale 10
ngla and shinny have some
pine valley
sunningdale old has a trail / pedestrian walkway across fairway on  hole 2 with non golfers having tight of way
olympia fields south 17
cypress 1
shoreacres 1 -back tee
atlantic city
walton heath old
piping rock
essex county club outside boston may have one
15 at the national in toronto

Simon Barrington

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #115 on: Today at 05:37:45 AM »
Berkhamsted GC (Herts) - Multiple Holes (some at ground level)

Henley GC (Oxon) - 3rd Hole (Road hidden behind a mound that Red Tee sits on, which was suggested by Cecil Leitch when she was Ladies President in the 1920s)
See:
https://x.com/CambridgeGrey/status/1847699181814640748
&
https://x.com/CambridgeGrey/status/1851998505490882682

Verulam GC (Herts) - 17th Hole - (Par 3 where they have had to install a fence to protect traffic, no choice I guess)


Sunningdale Heath (Surrey) - 1st & 15th
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Tim Martin

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #116 on: Today at 07:18:37 AM »
Vesper CC 1st hole

Mark Pearce

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In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Thomas Dai

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #118 on: Today at 08:04:43 AM »
Two occasions I recall when a shot played over a road hit a car and on both occasions the type of car was ……….. a VW ‘Golf’. Ironic. Coincidence. The odds at a bookies. Whatever.
:) :)

Atb

Mark Pearce

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #119 on: Today at 08:15:15 AM »
No mention on this thread of 18 at Ganton or 17 at Goswick.  15 and 17 on Crail Balcomie.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Chris Hughes

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #120 on: Today at 08:27:07 AM »
It was done after I was there but at some point Arnold added a tee on #15 such that the tee shot plays over Bay Hill Blvd.


That said, not sure if they ever use it for daily play...
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Steven Wade

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #121 on: Today at 09:13:47 AM »
Philadelphia Cricket Club’s St. Martins course plays over public roads 4 times in its 9 holes.








mike_malone

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #122 on: Today at 09:20:44 AM »
I nearly hit a plumbing truck at NGLA the last time I was there.
AKA Mayday

Tim Martin

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #123 on: Today at 09:24:50 AM »
Philadelphia Cricket Club’s St. Martins course plays over public roads 4 times in its 9 holes.


St. Martins is such a contrast to Wissahickon and Militia Hill but so much fun to play!






Steven Wade

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #124 on: Today at 09:47:03 AM »
Philadelphia Cricket Club’s St. Martins course plays over public roads 4 times in its 9 holes.


St. Martins is such a contrast to Wissahickon and Militia Hill but so much fun to play!


I agree, I play it often and am happy to have a place that I can sneak out to play in about an hour.