courses with holes playing over a road

[Dan_Callahan]

North Andover CC (over power lines as well, for an added visual bonus)

If you include entrance road, Ludlow CC (MA), Belgrade Lakes (ME), Woodland Golf Club (MA), Crumpin-Fox (MA)

[Greg Stebbins]

#2 at Essex County (NJ)

#1 and #4 at Willimantic (CT)

#18 at Fenway

[Jay Flemma]

inwood 10 and white bear 5 and 12.

[Bill_McBride]

Doug,

I've attached an annotated aerial of the 17th at Painswick which hopefully shows the cross roads better? Its pretty tight down there with OOB left and right and the cross roads. It is a reasonably quiet road, but it is a public road not just a driveway to the clubhouse. I did once find my ball sitting in themiddle of the cross roads and I wouldn't be suprised if someone has hit one that goes running down the road to the right, that ends up on the main road at the bottom of the hill?

he picture in the previous reply is taken walking after a drive on 17, when just past the 16th green. The aerial doesnt show the raised ground here that makes it a blind tee shot...

Cheers,

James

Great picture, gotta get back!    That tee shot on 16, over the grassed quarry grounds, is amazingly daunting.  Tlhe tee shot on 17 is even more nerve wracking.

[Forrest Richardson]

Boulders (Carefree, AZ) No. 6 South Course plays over the entry to the main resort.

[Jordan Wall]

Holes playing over a road.....hmmmmmmm I think I have one
 

Cheers,

[Damon Groves]

40 posts and no mention of Bandon Trails. #3 & #17 over Round Lake Dr.

I agree. Bandon Trails is what first came to mind for me. Also the post regarding San Gabriel Country Club which I agree is very unusual.

[Robert_Ball]

All in Southern California...

Hacienda 14
Victoria Club 7 & 18
Moreno Valley Ranch (Mtn) 9
Mountain View 18

[Robin_Hiseman]

The 2nd tee at Chestfield, in Kent, England is directly above the A299 dual carraigeway!
When they built the new highway it was routed directly through the middle of the golf course.  Their solution was to cut and cover the road and put the golf course back on top.  Jonathan Gaunt was the architect.  i've tried to attach an image.  If it doesn't work you can see it in Google Earth clearly enough.

[Robin_Hiseman]

Hooray!  No longer a picture virgin

[Mark Chaplin]

11th at Deal plays over the ancient highway

Whilst the 1st at Deal plays alongside the road the odds are pretty low of some "road action" during the BUDA!

14th (?) at R Adelaide is pretty cool hitting over the railway line.

[Scott Warren]

Lucky your bro isn't playing, Mark, or the oldies having lunch in the clubhouse would be in danger

At Deal a month or so back I was telling a visitor about the Ancient Highway as we approached the 11th green and a couple of oldies toddled past. The woman, who must have been 70-plus, says "Did you hear that?" to her husband. "He just said 'here comes a couple of ancients on the highway'."

[Martin Toal]

Haven't read all of these posts, but Wentworth (West) in Surrey, UK plays over several roads, starting on the first tee, with a road crossing below the elevated tee, also at the second par-3 and on a number of holes thereafter.

[Sean_A]

I am rather fond of Painswick's 17th, but the best over-roader I have seen is Trevose's excellent 18th.  From the back tees this is a monster par 4 - something like 470 uphill.  Even from the daily marker of 430ish carrying the road on the second can be problematic into a good breeze.  I haven't mentioned the tweeked nerves yet.  Combine this with the necessary eagle eye skill of gaging when its safe to play through all the people and cars and you have one hell of an over-road doozy.  


Ciao

[Scott Warren]

Sean, not to mention that in playing that shot you also have players making their way to the Short and Headland courses by way of the 18th fairway, resort guests bustling around... a lot happening!

[Andrew Mitchell]

I can testify that the 18th at Trevose is dangerous.  Whilst checking out the course on a drive through my car was struck by a wayward approach shot to the 18th green.

Fortunately it was a glancing blow.  Even more fortunately it was a hire car and no-one noticed the mark when I returned it  

[Bill_McBride]

17th at Alwoodley

Not to mention a fence!

[ChipOat]

The tee shot on the 17th at Teeth of the Dog used to play over an airport runway although I've heard they've since moved it (the jetport, that is).

[TEPaul]

Macdonald's Piping Rock plays over club roads a whole bunch of times as does his NGLA, his Links Club (NLE), Mid Ocean, and even The Creek Club in the beginning. If he really did have something to do with Merion East it would not surprise if those original holes crossing Ardmore Ave were endorsed by him too. Given his love of TOC and the proximity of roads to those holes it seems like playing near or over roads was very much a Macdonald thing which he may've even looked to do! 

I don't think there is much question that using existing roads as hazard features was very common in early golf architecture. Obviously they looked at roads as a ready-made and preexisting hazard feature to use.

[Christoph Meister]

Hole No.15 at Colt designed Royal Belfast Golf Club in Northern Ireland plays over a street just crossing in front of the green....

[Matt Bosela]

My home club, Scarboro Golf & CC in Toronto has the 18th hole where the tee shot plays over Scarborough Golf Club Road, at least from the White, Blue and Gold tees.  There is a fence to protect cars from tee shots so that is an additional obstacle but in most rounds (but not tournaments) there is a local rule allowing a free rehit if your shot hits the fence.

Had to dig up this topic again after playing Scarboro G&CC yesterday in our provincial better ball qualifier.  The 18th hole here is quite something - none of us had played the course before and we sat around for at least two minutes before figuring out that we had to hit our tee shots over the protective fence, uphill and over the main road to reach the hidden fairway.

Loved the course - a true Canadian gem (rated 53rd in Canada) and Tillinghast's only Canadian design.  Loved the new Ian Andrew/Gil Hanse bunkers...just gorgeous!

[Mark_Rowlinson]

But have we yet established why the author wanted to learn all this information?

[Mark Pearce]

One of the courses at Moor Park (can't remember which) crosses the access road but I guess that isn't uncommon.

[Nick Campanelli]

Holes 1 & 4 at The University Club of Connecticut (formerly Willimantic CC) play across Club Rd in Willimantic, CT.

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Mark, I recall several holes playing across internal roads at Moor Park. Doesn't the par-3 18th on the High Course sit just beyond one of the roads? While these roads are within the estate and not technically public there is traffic on them, as at Wentworth, with so much housing on the estate. By the way, the traffic calming humps on Sandy Lodge Lane within the estate are some of the fiercest I've encountered.8