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Deucie Bies

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2009, 09:28:50 PM »
#5 at Glen Echo CC in St. Louis plays over the entrance driveway

Stewart Abramson

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2009, 09:52:48 PM »

Several holes at Dellwood, an AWT course in New York.
# 1 and # 7.

I believe that one of the holes (7th ?) has a traffic light on the tee, for the golfers.
Red = don't hit, Green = tee off.
It's quite unique.


I've played Dellwood a number of times but don't recall a light telling you when to hit. The times that I've played it the local rule prohibited hitting over the road on your tee shot and there is a penalty for doing so. Each hole has a landing area on the same side of the road as the teeing ground and you are then supposed to hit over the road on your second shot. The course was built on the Adolph Zukor estate and the road is called Zukor Road.  The course was designed by Tillinghast and at the time it was buit there was not much traffic on the road. Today is a different story and you often have to step away from address several times as cars approach.

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I played Trump LA last week and don't recall a road on #5 or any other hole there. Here is a photo of #5 from the tee. There is a low area but I don't think there is a road there.
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Paul Carey

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2009, 10:13:19 PM »
Greensburg CC in Greensburg PA....the boyhood home of Rocco Mediate playes over a very busy road.  A fence protects the road.  If you hit the fence you get to drop on the other side about 100 yards from the green.  The road is about 175 from the green.


Peter Ferlicca

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2009, 10:22:42 PM »
San Gabriel Country Club in LA, The 18th hole has one of the funniest tee shots I have ever played.  You approach the tee box and think, “wait one second this can't be right."  The tee box is literally 10 feet in front of a 5 foot tall black metal fence, and then you hit over a 2 land road that is pretty busy, and then on top of it trees all the way down the left, and another road on the right loaded with trees.  Quite an intimidating tee shot, the big black fence is what tops it off though.
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Chris_Blakely

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2009, 11:00:41 PM »
Grossinger GC - Little G Course Liberty, NY

Glen Brook GC East Stroudsburg, PA

Charlevoix GC - Charlevoix, MI

The Club at Lochenheath Williamsburg, MI

Water Gap CC Del-Water-Gap, PA

Cape Arundel GC Kenebunkport, ME (entry road to course several times)

Garrison GC Garrison, NY (entry road to course)


Bill_McBride

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2009, 11:06:29 PM »
Mid Ocean plays over the road on a few holes, including 2-4.

Omaha Field Club (several times)

Cape Arundel (Entry Road)

Mid-Ocean also has a road in front of the Biarritz, is that #11?

Has no one mentioned Painswick's 17th hole?

David Stamm

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2009, 11:10:59 PM »
Victoria Golf Club's 7th and 17th holes tee shots go over a road. As does the first at Fallbrook.
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Dave Falkner

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2009, 11:14:42 PM »
10th at Yale

17th Sugarbush CC

North Fork CC - dont remember the hole #, Cutchogue, NY (Some holes are attributed to Ross)

Ronald Montesano

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2009, 11:15:50 PM »
So it's a pretty uncommon thing, then...
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Wade Whitehead

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2009, 11:54:37 PM »
18 @ Tobacco Road.

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Duncan Betts

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2009, 12:23:51 AM »
My home course used to play under one  :o

Scott Warren

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2009, 04:00:45 AM »
The 17th at Painswick plays - in the driving zone, no less - over a four way intersection, with the golfer unable to see if there is traffic coming from at least one of the roads!

PCCraig

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2009, 08:23:43 AM »
The 15th at TCC-Brookline plays over the entrance drive. Any drive over about 280 will roll across the road.

The 9th at the Ross Course at French Lick also plays over the entrance road.
H.P.S.

Trey Kemp

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2009, 09:57:14 AM »
Onion Creek Club #18 - Austin, TX

Tascosa Country Club #18 - Amarillo, TX
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Bill_McBride

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2009, 10:20:36 AM »
The 17th at Painswick plays - in the driving zone, no less - over a four way intersection, with the golfer unable to see if there is traffic coming from at least one of the roads!

Plus a cemetery on the left in the driving zone!  It's a busy tee shot. There's also a set of stairs up to a viewing platform.

Andy Troeger

Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2009, 10:24:47 AM »

I played Trump LA last week and don't recall a road on #5 or any other hole there. Here is a photo of #5 from the tee. There is a low area but I don't think there is a road there.

Stewart,
I'm pretty sure there's a road down there--its not something you would notice unless you're looking for it because its well below the level of the playing area. It was definitely paved although I can't guarantee it wasn't just a maintenance road.

Wyatt Halliday

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2009, 10:29:54 AM »
40 posts and no mention of Bandon Trails. #3 & #17 over Round Lake Dr.

Jeff Evagues

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2009, 10:39:07 AM »
The 9th at Sebonack.
Be the ball

Brad Tufts

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2009, 12:06:14 PM »
#1 at Cypress Point

#8 (I think) at Equinox in VT

#10 and #18 at Rosapenna-Old, although no longer, as that nine is being taken out of play.

#1 at Bass Rocks in Gloucester, MA
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Kalen Braley

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2009, 12:09:02 PM »
Ok Doug,

Now that you have oodles of examples, what were you hoping to discover?   ;)

Sean Leary

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2009, 12:11:24 PM »
Doesn't the first at the Teeth of the Dog go over a road as well?

Lenny Polakoff

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2009, 12:30:01 PM »
As previously stated, my home course Dellwood CC has 2 holes over the same road.

The 1st hole is a par 4 which a 3 wood or driver gets the ball over, although most of the membership can't reach it.

The 7th hole is a par 5 with a blind tee shot.  For this reason, you have to lay back short of the road. Any ball that crosses the road off this tee is considered OB.

Because of the length of the first hole, and the local "lay back" rule on the 7th hole, the road really only comes in to play on the second shot of both holes.

Chris_Blakely

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2009, 12:39:50 PM »
Here are a few more:

Galen Hall GC Wernersville, pa

The Pennhills Club Bradford, pa (over entry road twice)

Coudersport GC Coudersport, pa (over entry road)


Chris

Tom Yost

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2009, 12:50:24 PM »
Two that I know of in the greater Phoenix area:

Mesa Country Club plays back and forth across the entry drive.

San Marcos GC in Chandler has a seldom used back tee on #18 that crosses a road that accesses the housing on the inside perimeter of the course.

I realize these are more "mundane" than some of the more glamorous examples.


Bob Jenkins

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Re: courses with holes playing over a road
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2009, 12:53:40 PM »

Pasatiempo #2 from the back tee.