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Gene Greco

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2009, 08:32:00 PM »
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"...I don't believe it is impossible to build a modern course as good as Pine Valley.  To me, Sand Hills is just as good as Pine Valley..."    TOM DOAK  November 6th, 2010

Chip Gaskins

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2009, 10:53:39 PM »


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Ben Sims

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2009, 11:01:13 PM »
This is worse torture than POW training...
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2009, 11:07:11 PM »
Bah!!!

You guys are just all long fescue whores...  ;)

I'm surprised Huck loves this course with all the verbal beat-downs he's give Prarie Dunes for having gunch everywhere!   ;D
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Tim Bert

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2009, 11:07:38 PM »
A few more just because they were already handy on PhotoBucket and Ben seems to enjoy this.













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Rob Rigg

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2009, 11:48:03 PM »
Aesthetically - courses like Sand Hills and Ballyneal are more captivating to me than oceanside courses. I think it is the way that the holes mend seamlessly with the environment, and how all of the mounds, rumples, etc. from the fairways intergrate with the surroundings and just roll on as far as the eye can see.

These pics are amazing - some of them are very similar to Ireland, minus the ocean. Rugged and spectacular.

Sand Hills looks like a magical place indeed.
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JC Jones

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2009, 11:50:13 PM »
Quote from: Ben Sims on July 08, 2009, 11:01:13 PM
This is worse torture than POW training...

I dont find it to be that hard to look at these pictures, they are gorgeous. 
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Ben Sims

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2009, 12:00:43 AM »
JC,

Sarcasm is a virtue.  Sand Hills is one of my dream weavers.
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JC Jones

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2009, 12:05:47 AM »
Quote from: Ben Sims on July 09, 2009, 12:00:43 AM
JC,

Sarcasm is a virtue.  Sand Hills is one of my dream weavers.

We are allowed to be sarcastic around here? ;D
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Jon Spaulding

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2009, 12:07:08 AM »
Thanks everyone for opining on the wind. My host said roughly the same, but if he "had" to pick a prevailing....southwest.

Here are a couple of good looks, at least in an aesthetic sense. They certainly look better as full sized images. Hopefully the "techmology" people can get us back where we can see larger images on this site at some point.

If one were to post all the photogenic holes at this place, or the different looks one gets..........they WOULD be copying image code for the balance of their lives.

From the Porch:


#16 from the rear:


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Tom Huckaby

Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2009, 12:17:16 AM »
Quote from: Kalen Braley on July 08, 2009, 11:07:11 PM
Bah!!!

You guys are just all long fescue whores...  ;)

I'm surprised Huck loves this course with all the verbal beat-downs he's give Prarie Dunes for having gunch everywhere!   ;D

Another swing and a miss.  Man, you are worse than Dave Kingman, Kalen.

First, I never gave any verbal beat downs to Prairie Dunes, and I rather resent you saying that given I went to very extreme lenghts to make peace with those with whom I argued about that before.  All I once said - kinda like you here, from afar - was that the rough looked so high that one would spend a lot of time searching for balls, which was not my idea of "tons of fun."  I have henceforth come to realize the folly of that statement.  But one and all have confirmed that "gunch" does exist, big time, at PD.  It's just farther away from play than it looks in pictures.

There is no "gunch" at Sand Hills... at least the three times there, the rough was always very wispy.  Now these guys went after a month of 20+ inches of rain, so perhaps it was a little more dense lately.  But I am here to tell you each time there for me, the rough was not an issue.  In fact Gene Greco can attest to this - first trip there I played five rounds with ONE BALL.  Not one ball each round, ONE BALL FOR ALL FIVE. 

That's a place with "gunch"?

Strike three, you're out.
 ;D
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2009, 12:20:46 AM »
Lol...

Cmon Huck, I was just joshing with you!!    :-*  No harm intended!   ;)

As for only using one ball in 5 rounds, man you musta really be in the zone off the tee.  Hitting every fairway is just beyond outstanding!!   ;D
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Tom Huckaby

Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2009, 12:27:52 AM »
Well.. there are some things I can accept joshing about, and some I can't.  Mistating me rarely makes me smile.  Especially with all these theads going about a certain someone who was the freakin' KING of that.

But smiling I am.  Now. 
 ;D
And the point remains as you have seen - I am NOT that good.  At least when I was there, it was just pretty tough to lose a ball at Sand Hills.

TH
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Rob Rigg

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2009, 12:29:48 AM »
TH,

Do you have a picture of what the ball looked like after each round? I am sure the manufacturer would like to see that.

After one round with the VR wedges I bought this season my little golf ball friend looks almost battered beyond recognition.

After five rounds I would probably be looking at the layer beneath the cover.

You must be sporting V-Grooves already  ;D
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Tom Huckaby

Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2009, 12:38:01 AM »
Rob - this was quite awhile ago... I think 2001?  In any case the ball was a decent one at the time but not a soft cover... and I am not exaggerating about this... it was just fine.  5 rounds.  I came close to losing it at least once or twice - yeah, one can find places where that would happen, even back then - but I always found it.  It became a crusade after awhile.  I only kept using it after the first round just to see how far I could go....
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Tim Bert

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2009, 12:39:06 AM »
I highly recommend FAR LEFT off the tee on #2 for losing a ball.
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Tom Huckaby

Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2009, 01:02:30 AM »
Quote from: Tim Bert on July 09, 2009, 12:39:06 AM
I highly recommend FAR LEFT off the tee on #2 for losing a ball.

LOL!

Left of 4 works too.  Long on 14.  Left or long on 18.  Oh it can happen.

Believe me my feat was not repeated in subsequent visits.

Still... I did always find the rough to be pretty darn wispy there and most errant shots were findable.  Those that weren't didn't deserve to be found, as they were very awful shots.  The corridors are pretty darn wide... as required by the wind.
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Gene Greco

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2009, 10:14:44 AM »
!!!  (Courtesy of Neil Regan)


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George Freeman

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2009, 10:19:48 AM »
Wow, that picture is special...
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Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

George Freeman

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2009, 11:13:05 AM »
One of my all-time favorite pictures of a golf course, from Ran's profile:

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Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

JC Jones

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2009, 11:57:10 AM »
Im with you George, that picture from that angle is phenomenal.
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Gene Greco

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2009, 01:06:10 PM »
18 as one approaches the fairway
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"...I don't believe it is impossible to build a modern course as good as Pine Valley.  To me, Sand Hills is just as good as Pine Valley..."    TOM DOAK  November 6th, 2010

George Freeman

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2009, 01:13:07 PM »
Fantastic pictures Gene!  Especially that last one!  Unbelievable....
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Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

Tim Bert

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2009, 08:01:26 PM »
I'm sure there are places where the grass is thicker. The thing that makes left on 2 nasty is it goes down in that pit so you don't get to see it actually land. Then you get down there and lose track of your line. After the first time down there I learned to hit a provisional ball for future rounds. And yes my ball went right back there the second time around as well.
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Chip Gaskins

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Re: Sand Hills Revisited
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2009, 08:48:34 PM »
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