First I want to apologize to one and all for the length of this and for some of its content. I believe that after you read it (if you do) that my statement will make a bit more sense:
Tom the Mac,
Yes, when I first joined I took the "moniker" "Phil the Author" because nearly EVERYONE used them. Then Ran asked us to change from that and simply use our NAMES. That is why I changed it to Philip Young because that is my name.
It was just a few months ago that YOU began referring to me as "Phil the Author" rather than simply Phil or Philip (sorry David it's spelled with a single "L"). I felt and feel that you made that change for your own sarcastic reasons. That is why every time you address me as "Phil the Author" I now address you as "Tom the Mac." You show little respect for anyone on this site and absolutely NONE to me.
YOU called me a liar and confirmed doing so and then had the AUDACITY to tell me that I could do a simple thing to have you "retract" the statement by posting what I told you I could not! In other words, for me to prove to YOU that I wasn't lying I would have to LIE to the person who hired me & provided the documentation & information to me.
In reply I told you the name of the General Manager at Shawnee and suggested that you call him and ask him if I had the documents. He, of course, would have confirmed it as HE was the person who PERSONALLY GAVE THEM TO ME!
Of course, that was too much for the great Tom Macwood to do. You were left with reasonable choices. APOLOGIZE which you did not do (the "I don't believe I called you a liar but if I did I apologize" line is a load of crap by the way), state that though you don't really believe me but that for arguments sake you'll accept that I have them, or make a simple phone call to Shawnee and then have to tell all that I DID HAVE THEM!
But you couldn't even be man enough to do any of those; instead you once again insisted that I was still "bluffing" calling me a liar again!
You are some piece of work Tom Macwood.
As far as the email, Tom, I find it hard in the EXTREME to believe that you did not receive an email from me on 10/3. I CC'ed it to Ran and HE RECEIVED IT! When I spoke to him subsequently HE was under the impression that you must have received it. I copied who I sent it to from the email heading:
From: philwritesbooks@aol.comHide .Add to: To Do, Calendar
To: thomas.macwood@sbcglobal.net.Cc: rmorrissett@cabotlinks.com.Bcc:.
Date:Sun, Oct 3, 2010 5:11 pm
The title of the email is "Apology owed."
That is YOUR email address, is it not? If not please let me know and I'll send it again because it is DEFINITELY not an email you want made public. But I have taken so much crap from you that I will do so if you don't give me the courtesy of a response instead of the garbage line you said on the other thread "As far as your supposed email is concerned I could care less."
Frankly that doesn't sound like something one would say if they HADN'T gotten the email, especially as I NEVER received notification that the email to you was UNDELIVERABLE by my ISP!
In it I supplied you with ABSOLUTE PROOF that I had the documents and therefor wasn't lying, "bluffing", obfuscating or any other word you choose to use.
In it I offered a VERY UNDESERVED gesture stating that I would NOT POST the proofs or anything else, because doing so would embarrass you and that was NOT MY INTENT if you would simply admit what you did and PROPERLY APOLOGIZE to me via private email. I stated, and I am now quoting directly:
"I am emailing you in private to give you an opportunity to admit that you called me a liar and apologize for it. In your refusals to do so you stated that there was an easy way to prove that I hadn't and that would be by posting the private documents given to me by the ownership of Shawnee. As I told you, to do so would be to make myself a liar to them as I had promised not to publish anything before the book came out.
"In discussing the matter with Ran, he at first also suggested that I post them, and as I am CC'ing him on this email he will also have to admit if you ask him that I should do so and "EMBARRASS you" by doing so. Yes, Tom, those were his EXACT words. I am certain that you won't believe it, but that has never been my intention and it is not my intention to do so now. Ran, also now understands why I wouldn't do so."
If you don't believe that I wrote that than ask RAN to verify it as he DEFINITELY RECEIVED IT!
I post it freely here because you so cavalierly just stated:
"I have no idea what you are talking about regarding an email. I spoke to Ran yesterday, and you nor an email from you came up in our conversation. I have not received an email from you in weeks, and that is a good thing. Why don't you start a thread about that supposed email so I can ignore that too."
Interesting that you use that phrase “so I can ignore that too.” You seem to do a lot of ignoring, especially when it is pointed out that you actually DON’T!
This taken from Tom Macwood's post #180 on the Top Courses thread. For some reason he has never commented about this either, and I think it especially germane in discussing why he hasn’t apologized for calling me a liar.
Quote from: Philip Young on September 14, 2010, 09:20:15 PM
You have NEVER seen any of the Shawnee Country Club minutes and records... I HAVE.
You have NEVER seen any documents related to the building of the Inn and golf course. I HAVE.
You have NEVER seen any documents related to Worthington's purchase of any of the properties in the Shawnee area. I HAVE.
You have NEVER seen any of the documents stored at the Monroe County Historical Society relating to the different Worthington businesses that he located there. I HAVE.
You have NEVER seen the minutes of the Shawnee Community Association which was operated out of Worthington Hall. I HAVE.
You have NEVER seen the documents related to the buying of the properties that would eventually become Worthington's hunting Lodge and Buckwood Park. I HAVE.
You have NEVER seen the related to the purchase of SOME of the property of old Fort Depuy (he didn't purchase the original 3,000 acres because the land had become split into numerous private farms by the 1890s) which he would RENAME Manwalamink, which is where he and his family lived, nor do you know WHY he renamed it that. IHAVE and I DO.
The reason I HAVE and I DO is because I am currently writing the 100-year anniversary book for the Shawnee Inn, Shawnee Country Club and Shawnee Golf Course, hired to do so by the current owners who have given me complete and unfettered access to everything, anything and anyone.
Tom Macwood you need to apologize to me properly, admitting what you did and do so publicly now. I truly have not wanted to embarrass you this way but you leave me no choice.
And just in case you think I am lying about that, here is the header and a small piece of a follow-up email I sent to Ran:
I'm hoping to not embarrass Macwood...
From: philwritesbooks@aol.com
To: rmorrissett@cabotlinks.com
Date:Mon, Oct 4, 2010 9:08 pm
“I guarantee this will be the last email on the subject. Hopefully you read my one from yesterday and saw the attached absolute proof that I have the Shawnee documents just as I sent them to Tom. I have yet to hear word one from him and am disgusted by his refusal to admit what he did and apologize. I am pretty much begging you to get in touch with him as the site does not need me posting the information and embarrassing him because it will be very bad for all, yet my honor is at stake. I find it completely non-coincidental that on the "Not to bring up a sore point thread" that the very day after receiving my email that he purposefully posted the same false nonsense about Shawnee in post #102...”
Tom, I’ve never wanted to embarrass you, but in order to get the apology that I am owed and deserve as I believe that you have publicly slandered me and my name, I will now also post the “absolute proofs” that I had and have all of the original documents from Shawnee that you accused me of lying about when I said so.
These will be posted on the Shawnee thread as that is where they belong.
Preserve what little dignity is left you and apologize!
As for referring to David and calling him "David the Moriarity" take a careful look at that thread. A number of times David refers to me as "Phillip" (his misspelled version) and then, of a sudden, after HE treats me with crap he calls me "Phil the Author" and so I returned the favor.
If the both of you don't like it then call me Phil, Philip, Philip Young, Young or even Mr. Young. Don't call me by the moniker as we are to use and call each other by our names.
Finally, I made no attempt to "derail" the other thread. EVERYTHING I posted had to do with the subject or was in response to what OTHERS had posted first! It was YOU TOM who brought up Barker and his "Mysterious" disappearance and YOU who said that you had no idea where he went and YOU who said that there was "NO" mention of him anywhere. I responded with some mentions of where he was and when and then gave clues to others and then OFFERED YOU HELP on the subject, sarcastically I admit but then again I've been more than a bit provoked by you and the baseless things you have accused me of and attacked me with, but it was a real offer none the less. Now you can look them up yourself.