Where'd y'all come from? I'd given up on this thread, figured I'd made my point so well, nobody was gonna argue with me.
Guess I was wrong.
Shivas writes:
I assume that was aimed at me.It was more aimed toward the title of this thread.
I don't hate change. Given a choice between our current form of government and anarchy, I'd choose anarchy. That's change.
I don't want to see Pebble changed to make it tougher. It doesn't need toughening. There are plenty of tough courses for those of you who enjoy being beat up.
OK, fine, but let me ask you this: how would you feel about changes that make Pebble easier? The only change I wouldn't mind seeing at Pebble is change that makes the course better. I don't want easier, I don't want tougher.
Next question is; do your proposed changes make the course better? I don't think they do, because they are out of character with the rest of the course. I don't see a lot of fairway pot bunkers at Pebble. But that's subject to debate. But I might have been more receptive to them under a thread titled
Improving Pebble.
I have no problem with No. 15 being a transition hole, a break in the round between No. 14 and No. 16. It's amazing how many times those little push-over holes come up and bite you in the ass.
Evan_Green writes:
If the intention is to leave things as is- then the new 5th hole at Pebble would never have been builtAmen.
I'm not saying that property shouldn't have been used, but the hole should look more like other holes at Pebble. It is out of character with all of the other holes at Pebble. It also breaks up the flow with that walk backward to the No. 6 tee. I'd probably make the tee on No. 6 closer to No. 5 green so you don't have that weird walk backwards.
Change is good as long as it improves the course- It was you who picked the title for this thread, right? Back peddling?
Hey everybody wherever you are
They've got a new way of talking and it's gonna go far;
You take the letters in the words, turn 'em around;
Say the last one first and check out the sound,
Talk Backwards
I know what you're thinking; that it sure sound strange
You talked forward so long that it's hard to change
But it's just like metric once you get the drift
You twist your tongue and give your palate
A lift. You take your favorite phrase, read
It in the mirror, practice that about a half
A year, and then sdrawkcab gnikiat mi em ta kool
You're a regular talking bassackwards fool
Talk backwards
Talking backwards is the new sensation,
Talking backwards is sweeping the nation
You amaze your friends when you start to rap
Don't say pass the butter, say rettub eht ssap.
Rettub eht ssap? Rettub eht ssap
And if you're out with a girl and she's a
Little bit shy don't say I love you; say
Uoy evol I. uoy evol I and I always will, Now
See if that doesn't take off the chill
Talk Backwards
Just the otherday I was walking down the street
And there was this little girl I thought I'd
Like to meet. I said excuse me miss but
Sserd taht teg uoy erehw. thgin ta tuo emoc
Yeht srats ekil era hteet ruoy
And I said am I getting through to you yet
She said you're a gent in the first degree
And I love it when you talk backwards to me
Talk backwards
--Steve Goodman and Mike Smith