[Brian Potash]

The other day I hit into a lateral water hazard down the left side of the fiarway.  There were no stakes to define the hazard.  between the water and the edge of the very thick rough, there was 2 feet of very tall grass (the type you would probably have to take a drop from).  So my question is where do i take my relief from, the point where the water begins, or the point where the extremely thick stuff begins.  if i take 2 clubs relief from the wate line, i am probably just safe of the very thick stuff, but just barely.  what if my 2 clubs would put me directly in the very very thick stuff.  do i get further relief fromt that?

on a side note, the course was Metropolis is Westchester county and I enjoyed very much.  Reminded me most of Old Oaks of the courses I have played.

Brian

[Dan Herrmann]

Brian,
Most water hazard boundries extend beyond the edge of the water.  Since this wasn't marked, you should have asked for a ruling or played 2 balls (stroke play) and asked the committee after the round.

If it was a fun round, I'd have dropped 2 clublengths from the tall stuff.

The fact that it wasn't marked is strange.  How did you know it wasn't a regular water hazard, for example?

[Brian Potash]

i guess i didnt.  the water was a pond that lined a portion of the fairway.  could a regular hazard line 1 side of the fairway like that? 

this was totally a fun round, though that hole wasnt too much fun.  i dropped 2 lenghts form the really tall stuff.

[Rich Goodale]

In regards to the second question, no, you do not get relief from the "tall stuff" if you drop it in there, or even if it rolls in there (no closer to the hole).

[Bill_McBride]

In regards to the second question, no, you do not get relief from the "tall stuff" if you drop it in there, or even if it rolls in there (no closer to the hole).

That reminds me of the time my tee shot ended up on a paved cart path where the closest relief was into deep grass and trees! 

Needless to say I played the next shot off the path, although it chewed up a six iron pretty good. 

[John_Cullum]

There are a couple of decisions that shed some light on where boundaries should be:

33-2a/4  Where to Place Lines or Stakes Defining Margin of Water Hazard

Lines and stakes defining the margins of a water hazard should be placed as nearly as possible along the natural limits of the hazard, i.e., where the ground breaks down to form the depression containing the water. See also Decision 26-1/19.

26/3  Unmarked Water Hazard

Q. An unmarked ditch on the left of a hole is in bounds, but the left-hand margin is out of bounds. Accordingly, it is impossible to drop behind the water hazard under Rule 26-1b. A player’s ball comes to rest in the ditch. Is the player restricted to playing the ball as it lies or proceeding under Rule 26-1a?

A. It is the responsibility of the Committee to define accurately the margins of water hazards and lateral water hazards — see Rule 33-2a. However, if the Committee has not done so, the ditch is, by definition, a lateral water hazard and the player should be permitted to proceed under Rule 26-1c(i).

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