David,
Tom Paul, Wayne (who thank God had enough sense to just move on from this nonsense) and I are not some monolithic force. Hell, I don't think they agree with me half the time and I have my own disagreements with them on some matters.
I've tried to back away from this discussion many, many times, and I've recommended you do the same....in fact many times I told you that I think you're at a significant disadvantage here because some of us have seen the minutes and you haven't and thought that was unfair and pointless and ultimately would be futile for you because those minutes prove that Hugh Wilson and the Committee created a bunch of routings in 1911 and one of them was ultimately recommended, approved, and built.
It's not that Macdonald and Whigham didn't contribute great advice and help consultatively...they just didn't create the routing or design the holes.
But David...I have to tell you....you're absolutely infuriating to discuss things with.
On this thread I have probably asked somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 direct questions, and they were sincere, rational questions based on the evidence as I see it.
You didn't attempt to answer a single one of them, and dismissed every fact I brought to bear with unhelpful, dismissive comments like "it doesn't mean what you think it means".
Frankly, you reject out of hand discussion about anything that doesn't fit into the narrow theory box you've put yourself into and try desperately to change the subject, or worse yet, piously protest that we are simply protecting a local myth rather than face the hard facts that your essay's main premise is in dire straits.
You also claim others are insulting to you and your ideas, but you are equally guilty and then some...you just wrap yourself in the cloak of victim while throwing grenades.
Tonight, Tom Paul showed how the Francis Land Swap could not have happened before November 15th, 1910.
Rather than acknowledge that fact, and try to learn the real history as you claim you want to, you once again go on a passive/aggressive rant about how everyone is against you and how we are just making stuff up, or cherry picking facts, or whatever.
You've painted yourself into such a corner that you can't accept any truth that doesn't agree with your premise. In some cases, we have probably done the same.
But, this is once again going nowhere fast and a thread I started to try to respectfully and civilly discuss your theory and propose an alternative and lay out the timelines I as I understand them has degenerated once again.
This is not a court case where acknowledging any valid point made by the opposition or truthfully answering any direct question somehow makes your case weaker. Yet, that seems to be the way you've approached this entire matter David, and it's no coincidence to me that once again the discussion has hit a wall.
Thankfully, I do think enough evidence has been brought to bear here where we can all move on and accept that we all did learn some new things and Macdonald did have a larger role in some areas, but that Hugh Wilson and Committee actually did do the routing and hole designs, but somehow I sense that may never happen....
That's too bad.