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Joe Bausch

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Although RiverWinds has been around for about 7 years now as a daily fee course just across the river from the Philadelphia International Airport, I only recently made it there.  For the last couple of years the word on the street was the course had conditioning issues.  Recently the group led by ex-Iggle Ron Jaworski bought the course and are busy this spring whipping it back into shape.

I played it about 2 weeks ago and found the conditions to be acceptable and clearly improving.  Many of the bunkers have been polished up, and not many are left for rehabbing.  Some of the greens are brown in spots (not the bad dead and sandy condition), in particular in the most contoured areas.  However, it makes it easier to see the various tiers on many of the greens in the pics below.

A very quirky aspect of the course is that you park and check in where the indoor tennis courts are located.  The course is very easily walked, but you must hike about 1100 yards to get to the first tee!  Since their rates (currently 39 bucks) include a cart, I recommend using the cart to get out to the first tee, then walk the course and jump back in the cart to return to the parking lot after the round.

RiverWinds opens with a fairly simple dogleg right par 5.

From short of the green:



From over the green:



165 yard par 3 2nd:





No 3:  416 yard par 4.





No 4:  dogleg right par 5, 477 yards





No 5 is a long (446 yard) par 4 with water in play left off the tee, and it creek runs up left to the green to more water:





The 6th is a dogleg left par 4 (381 yards) where you must be far enough right in the FW to have an unobstructed view of the green.  Here is a view from just short of the green:



And this view from over the green shows the mound at the inside of the bend that makes drive placement important:



A longish (200+ yards) par 3 is next, playing slightly downhill to a two-tiered green:





The view from just short and right of the 8th hole, a 422 yard par 4:



The ninth requires a drive over water and deciding how much of the dogleg to bite off.  It is only about a 225 yard carry over the water just to the right of the concrete drain left in the first photo, and the bunker through the FW taking a more conservative line is in play (I know, I went in it!).



The view for a 2nd shot to the elevated and very deep green:



From over the green:



The back nine begins with a neat dogleg left par 5 that big hitters may be enticed to reach in two, but the 2nd shot better be precise as the green is just across a diagonally angled creek.

The view from the drive landing area:



For most people, their view for their 3rd shot (yeah, plenty of earth was moved to shape the course, but I really like this green site):



From the back of the green:



The 11th is a par 4 with big hitters perhaps able to reach another creek not really in view from the tee:



A view from left and long of the green:



The 12th is a slightly uphill shortish par 4, with the best line for the drive close to those right FW bunkers:



From short of the green:



The 13th is a almost 600 yard par 5, slight dogleg right, where you can pretty much wail away on both the drive and 2nd shot if you wish.  Here's the view from the dogleg:



On the 14th, a 381 yard par 4, the second shot has this view, not the only time on the course a crossing bunker is used near a green:



From over the green:



The view from the tee on the 162 yard par 3:



And from over the green:



A good drive on the 354 yard par 4 16th leaves this view:



A view back down the fairway from just right of the green:



The 'signature hole' (groan) for RiverWinds is this peninsula par 3 17th, playing about 140 yards and downhill:



The view from over the green:



And from near the 18th tee is this view to the green:



The 18th at RiverWinds is the #1 handicap hole, a par 4 of 391 yards.  The back tee is very elevated and gives this view:



And here is the view from the back right part of the green (clearly the spot for a 'Sunday pin'):



Overall I was very happy with RiverWinds.  At 39 bucks, it is good value and will improve if the efforts being made currently on conditioning are successful.





« Last Edit: April 20, 2009, 02:26:14 PM by Joe Bausch »
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 02:09:49 PM »
I've played this course about 10 times over the years. The last time was in October 2008 and the conditions were horrible. This course needs a lot of TLC and a modest clubhouse near the first tee- even something like the temporary trailers that have been used at Center Valley for many years. Jaworski is turning into a golf entrepreneur. He also bought the private Running Dear in South Jersey and plans to upgrade that course as well. I won't return to Riverwinds until the summer and give them a chance to get things right. It's a good place to meet my friends from NJ for some golf and the course is above average when it's in proper condition. There's a good cheesesteak place nearby too.

It looks like Jaworski has an option to buy the course while his company manages it:

http://www.nj.com/gloucester/index.ssf?/base/news-4/123571232984560.xml&coll=8

« Last Edit: April 20, 2009, 02:18:10 PM by Steve_ Shaffer »
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Joe Bausch

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2009, 02:32:06 PM »
Steve, I think the condition of the course is acceptable right now.  The fairways are lush (sure, I would like them to be a bit firmer, but it had rained recently), many of the traps have been refurbed, and the greens might not look great in spots, but they putted just fine.  One of my trusty golfing friends that knows a bit about maintaining a golf course took a look at the pics and thinks it might not take long at all get the greens back in tip-top shape.

Oh yes, here is the photo album I put together on Riverwinds that contains all 149 photos I saved from the trip:

http://darwin.chem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/Riverwinds/
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JeffTodd

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 02:37:29 PM »
It's been painful to hear the rumors about the decline of Riverwinds. I've always thought highly of the course, particularly at its price point, but have not returned to play in the last few seasons after hearing too many horror stories from reliable sources.

I was happy to hear that Jaworski stepped in to bail out the course, although if the heavy-handed cheesyness he uses when promoting his Valleybrook course is any indication, the salvation of Riverwinds will come at a price. However, with no clubhouse to improve perhaps we will be spared the compelling business updates, such as this one:

http://www.valleybrookgolf.com/Details.aspx?AlbumID=9&Page=0

Joe Bausch

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 03:12:34 PM »
Here's the routing for RiverWinds.  You park your car in the lot at the bottom left of the photo.  It appears there is land up near the 1st tee for a clubhouse, so maybe some day that will happen. 

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Eric Smith

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 03:40:31 PM »
Looks good Joe.  Very playable, a bomber's paradise (in winter anyway) judging from your pictures. 

The quality of the design looks to be impressive as well.  Any accolades since its opening?

I'm curious, does the walk from 8 green to 9 tee feel at all dangerous, eg in the line of fire from 1 or those playing behind you on 8?  In aerials it is always difficult for me to discern how much room there really is between holes.

Thanks again for another quality tour from the vaults of the Joe Bausch Mobile Studios.

Eric

Joe Bausch

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 04:00:07 PM »
Looks good Joe.  Very playable, a bomber's paradise (in winter anyway) judging from your pictures. 

The quality of the design looks to be impressive as well.  Any accolades since its opening?

I'm curious, does the walk from 8 green to 9 tee feel at all dangerous, eg in the line of fire from 1 or those playing behind you on 8?  In aerials it is always difficult for me to discern how much room there really is between holes.


Eric, that #9 tee is sort of protected by some mounding, etc, as this view from #9 FW looking back to the tee shows:



I believe RiverWinds is currently in Golfweek's top 15 courses you can play in New Jersey:

1. Atlantic City CC, Northfield (c)
2. Ballyowen, Hardyston (m)
3. Twisted Dune, Egg Harbor Township (m)
4. Sand Barrens, Swainton (m)
5. Pine Hill GC, Pine Hill (m)
6. Scotland Run, Monroe Township (m)
7. Architects Golf Club, Lopatcong (m)
8. Wild Turkey GC at Crystal Springs Resort, Hardyston (m)
9. Neshanic Valley, Neshanic Station (m)
10. Hominy Hill, Colts Neck (m)
11. Royce Brook (East), Somerville (m)
12. Vineyards at Renault Winery, Egg Harbor Township (m)
13. Seaview (Bay), Absecon (c)
14. RiverWinds, Thorofare (m)
15. Sea Oaks, Egg Harbor Township (m)*
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mike_malone

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 04:01:04 PM »
 Put me down as a fan. Glad to hear conditions are improving. I love the fairway bunker on 16.
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Eric Smith

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 04:16:44 PM »
Yes it appears there's plenty of room there in that pic.  Thanks Joe and thanks too for the golfweek list.

Rick Sides

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 04:21:22 PM »
I played Riverwinds a few years ago and it was a pretty fun course.  Conditions were okay at that time. I heard Jaworski bought it.  I have not been back to play his course Running Deer.  I played Running Deer about a year ago before Jaworski bought it and I would honestly say it was the worst conditioned course I ever played!!! You would have been better off finding a land fill in NJ and teeing off and making holes out of beer cans than playing Running Deer.  Hopefully Jaworski can turn it around.

Chris_Blakely

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 07:27:53 PM »
Joe,

Thanks for the pics.  I played Riverwinds when the course started on what is now the 2nd hole and finished on the first.  I have always really liked the course.  They have struggled with poor conditions for ahwile now - glad to here that they are under new ownership and the course is improving.

Chris

mike_malone

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 07:42:37 PM »
 Having just played the worst tree offending course I know of this weekend it helps me to understand why I like a modest course like Riverwinds. I just can't stand covering over intended lines of play. Nothing kills the fun factor more.

   As we were  pitching out from among the evergreens for the umpteenth time on the last hole I couldn't resist asking my host if he would like one comment about our predicament. We were downhill with about 100 yards to go coming in from the right side which would have required a shot over two volcano type bunkers to a back right pin with a severe falloff beyond the green. And the greens were hard and fast.  Because of the trees we had only one shot. He agreed as we both hit our 7 irons under the trees to about 25 yards from the green.


   Of course you can hit it all over the place most of the time at Riverwinds but the designer then gets to do his job by creating challenges for you. There are a few holes where precision is called for and that adds to the variety.


     
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Brad Fleischer

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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 11:22:52 PM »
Joe,

Thanks for pics ! Perfect timing as I was just asking someone on here for some help with philly area courses . I had never heard of this course untill someone told me about it just yesterday . I couldn't find much and voila here you start this thread. I am def going to give it a shot as I will be in philly more frequently now.

Brad

Ed Oden

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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 11:50:31 PM »
Joe, thanks for the tour.  I first spotted RiverWinds last month while flying into Philly.  It looked really interesting from the air so I pulled it up on Google Earth and then searched the archives for prior threads.  Found a couple that were lukewarm at best.  Based on your pictures, I can't really see why.

Ed

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 12:11:49 AM »
Ed,

The problems with Riverwinds are the lack of decent conditioning during the past 3 years and the lack of facilities. Hopefully, new management will attend to these problems promptly. The course itself is fun to play when it's fast and firm  and the bunkers have sand in them. At all costs, avoid the deep bunker on the right of 18 green.

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D_Malley

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 10:23:50 AM »
i always thought that this course would be a good purchase for the harrahs casino which is just across the river.  Maybe a hotel and conference center with water taxis to and from casino and airport.

Scott_Burroughs

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 02:32:25 PM »
Always curious about RiverWinds, since the entrance road to the course starts about a gap wedge from where I lived late '92-early '94.  The course, those nearby ballfields, & housing weren't there then, though.

Matt_Ward

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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 04:18:58 PM »
Joe, et al:

Can someone tell me if real sand is now in the frontal bunker at #17 -- I never really learned to hit the full dirt explosion shot !

I like the layout but the elevated tee at #18 is a man-made disaster. Yes, it provides views but it's clearly out of place and character.

Are the green speeds now beyond the 5-foot shoulder-turn routine that I experienced a few years back?

It's possible the layout could get a top 15 position but Mike M said it right -- they need to show a real desire to straighten all things out. Be happy to play there again later this year to see firsthand.

Maybe getting a group of people to play there would be a real plus !


Scott Weersing

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 04:28:54 PM »
Here's the routing for RiverWinds.  You park your car in the lot at the bottom left of the photo.  It appears there is land up near the 1st tee for a clubhouse, so maybe some day that will happen. 



Why not just start the course with the No. 2 hole and then play from there? That would reduce the long walk to the first tee and back from the 18th green.

How many courses in the US start with a par 3 hole? It could be a unique trait.

Is there a driving range? If not then they could put one in the area next to the first hole and ruin the views.

Steve_ Shaffer

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2009, 04:55:29 PM »
No driving range yet. Just an astroturf mat and a net. The alleged putting green is about the size of a kitchen table. This place needs TARP money.

The original developer had plans for a hotel and conference center. Just like the clubhouse that was proposed, it never got off the ground. If Harrah's Casino across the river in Chester ever built a hotel with waterboat access, I'd be shocked. Now, on the other hand, there are 2 other casinos planned upriver in Philadelphia and if they want to do a joint venture with Harrah's....

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astavrides

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2009, 01:19:04 AM »
I played Riverwinds a few years ago and it was a pretty fun course.  Conditions were okay at that time. I heard Jaworski bought it.  I have not been back to play his course Running Deer.  I played Running Deer about a year ago before Jaworski bought it and I would honestly say it was the worst conditioned course I ever played!!! You would have been better off finding a land fill in NJ and teeing off and making holes out of beer cans than playing Running Deer.  Hopefully Jaworski can turn it around.
Running Deer was in good condition when I played it for the first time this past Thanksgiving Day.

Rick Sides

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2009, 02:23:00 PM »
I had played Running Deer last summer.  Maybe Jaworski's group had bought it by Thanksgiving.  I remember thinking the course could be pretty good, but the day I played it, I could not even find the ball in the fairway a few times because the grass was so high!  Forget it if your ball went in the rough.  Hopefully they have gotten it in better shape.

Chris_Blakely

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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2009, 02:50:47 PM »
Scott,

If you see my post above, when I played Riverwinds several years ago, it started on the Par 3 second hole, I do not remember when that was.  As for courses that start with par 3's:

Winchendon School GC Winchendon, MA starts with 2
Mount Lebanon GC Mount Lebanon, PA starts with 1
Black Bear GC Vanderbilt, MI starts with a bye hole par 3


Chris

astavrides

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2009, 09:51:49 PM »
Scott,

If you see my post above, when I played Riverwinds several years ago, it started on the Par 3 second hole, I do not remember when that was.  As for courses that start with par 3's:

Winchendon School GC Winchendon, MA starts with 2
Mount Lebanon GC Mount Lebanon, PA starts with 1
Black Bear GC Vanderbilt, MI starts with a bye hole par 3


Chris

Pacific Grove starts with 2.

Sean_A

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Re: RiverWinds: Ed Shearon's first solo effort (a pictorial essay)
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2009, 03:22:49 AM »
One thing I really notice about this course is that the fairway and greenside (often behind green) mounding seems to just appear in the rough but their lines don't carry through the greens or fairways.  Sometimes it looks like the mounding is starting so far off line that it would look dopey for the lines to carry through, but I would think that if such extensive mounding is worth building a significant percentage of it should seriously influence fairway and green play rather than acting as mainly framing.   

Here are a few examples.





Now here are a few examples where the mounding rides down to the fairway or green and really influences play.







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