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Anthony Gray

The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« on: August 14, 2009, 09:22:25 PM »

  What   great new courses are in the works and plan to open in the next two years?

   Anthony


« Last Edit: August 14, 2009, 09:29:46 PM by Anthony Gray »

K. Krahenbuhl

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2009, 09:29:30 PM »
Old Mac, Prairie Club, Dormie Club to name 3.

Dean Stokes

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2009, 09:42:58 PM »
Surely the one Tiger is doing in N Carolina will be finished in one of these years. We know that will be great. Don't we?
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Eric Smith

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2009, 09:44:11 PM »
Lost Farm - Coore/Crenshaw
Harbour Shores - Nicklaus

jim_lewis

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2009, 09:56:09 PM »
I am curious exactly how one is able to know that a course will be great before it opens. Are we to presume that because we like an architects previous courses that we will like his next one?  Does the reverse also work?
"Crusty"  Jim
Freelance Curmudgeon

K. Krahenbuhl

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2009, 10:07:48 PM »
I am curious exactly how one is able to know that a course will be great before it opens. Are we to presume that because we like an architects previous courses that we will like his next one?  Does the reverse also work?

Just judging from preview pictures.  Don't know if they will be great, but likely among the "best".

Adam Clayman

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2009, 10:08:13 PM »
Jim you make an excellent point. However with the rather large gathering of access ho's they need a leg up on strategizing their schedules. Plus every course that opens in the next two years will be by definition one of the top courses. (so few)
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

jim_lewis

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 10:17:12 PM »
I guess it depends on your definition of "great". I apply that status to very few courses, and only after I have played them. Given the fact that so few new courses are opening these days, we could easily go a year or so with no new "great" courses. There certainly have been many years when the "best new" courses were far from great. I have seen many of the completed holes at the Dormie Club, and I expect that the finished product may be quite good. But, I plan to wait until it is finished and I have seen it before deciding how I would evaluate it. If we judged by photos alone, there would be thousands of "great" courses in the world.
"Crusty"  Jim
Freelance Curmudgeon

K. Krahenbuhl

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 10:20:32 PM »
I can agree with that.  I've played many courses that were probably among the best for the year they opened.  Only a handful have been great.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 10:23:29 PM »
In any event, there won't be many to choose from.
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Chip Gaskins

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2009, 10:23:54 PM »
Cabot Links

Mike_Young

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 10:26:51 PM »
Any course that opens...and there will still be slots open in some mags.....
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Will MacEwen

Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 10:44:09 PM »
I don't know the timeline, but Union Bay may be back from the dead.

mike_beene

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 10:55:55 PM »
Any word on the project north of Austin?

Tom_Doak

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 11:19:01 PM »
Already four courses nominated which haven't even STARTED construction.  Don't you have to build something in order to win Best New?

David Kelly

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2009, 11:32:19 PM »
In the absence of actual courses maybe they can just judge the architect's drawings and give out a Best Potentially Built New Course award.
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." - Judge Holden, Blood Meridian.

Jim Nugent

Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2009, 03:45:39 AM »
Is the new C&C course at Barnbougle moving along? 

Scott Macpherson

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2009, 04:34:48 AM »
Hi,

I cannot say whether our new course at Close House in Newcastle will be  judged the 'Best New Course' in the UK when it opens (probably in 2011). But we are well under construction with the first holes due to be seeded in the next weeks. I can say however, that we are very happy with the holes, forms, routing and style of the project so far.

Here are a couple of snaps;

regards,

Scott


5th green being cored out


5th green after rootzone installed


6th Green & approach


12th green


13th Hole


A cross bunker on the 7th

Anthony Gray

Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2009, 10:00:33 AM »


  I guess the reason for my question is over the past several years there has been a great sense of anticipation for upcoming courses. Kingsbarns..Pac Dunes..Whistling Straits..Chambers Bay..Thhe Castle and with the opening of Castle Stuart and Old Mac soon..What do we have to look foward to? I need hope!! I want suspense. I want my patients to be tried. WHAT IS NEXT?


   Anthony


Mike_Young

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2009, 10:11:02 AM »


  I guess the reason for my question is over the past several years there has been a great sense of anticipation for upcoming courses. Kingsbarns..Pac Dunes..Whistling Straits..Chambers Bay..Thhe Castle and with the opening of Castle Stuart and Old Mac soon..What do we have to look foward to? I need hope!! I want suspense. I want my patients to be tried. WHAT IS NEXT?


   Anthony



Can't you get in trouble for having your patients tried.....now patience would be a different thing you red neck dentist....OBTW..I did hear that Alabama now has a dentist. ;D
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2009, 10:59:44 AM »
Looks nice Scott.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
The Players Club, Cumberwell Park, The Kendleshire, Oake Manor, Dainton Park, Forest Hills, Erlestoke, St Cleres.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2009, 01:23:49 AM »
... I want my patients to be tried. ...


   Anthony



Probably the best way to do that would be to hire me as a dental hygienist for your office.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Scott Macpherson

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2009, 05:27:58 AM »
Looks nice Scott.

thanks Adrian.

When is your new design due to open?

scott

Jonathan Cummings

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2009, 07:25:16 AM »
Man, I got to believe GD is going to have a pruned down edition of "Best New".  JC

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: The Best New Courses for 2010 and 2011
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2009, 08:31:23 AM »
Looks nice Scott.

thanks Adrian.

When is your new design due to open?

scott

Should be springy 2010.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
The Players Club, Cumberwell Park, The Kendleshire, Oake Manor, Dainton Park, Forest Hills, Erlestoke, St Cleres.
www.theplayersgolfclub.com