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Brad Klein

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2009, 06:57:00 PM »
The 2nd edition of "Rough meditations," published in 2006, is 20% additional material over the first edition from 1997. It didn't replace anything; just added to it. The next collection of essays will be all different material, some of it never published before.

Lloyd_Cole

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2009, 07:34:42 PM »
Re - A course Called Ireland

Not to suggest that that any of the above is wrong, one man's meat, etc - just to offer a different perspective, I was asked to review the book. Here's my note to the reviews editor -

The book is the worst of golf books
Do you mind if I do a hatchet job on convoluted self aggrandizing stunts executed purely to get book deals?
That's what this is

Finnegan's book is all you need if you want to know where to play in Ireland, or the Peugeot Guide.

Ash Towe

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2009, 07:48:04 PM »
Planet Golf USA is for sale from September 1 according to Amazon

Carl Johnson

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2009, 08:01:22 PM »
Re - A course Called Ireland

Not to suggest that that any of the above is wrong, one man's meat, etc - just to offer a different perspective, I was asked to review the book. Here's my note to the reviews editor -

The book is the worst of golf books
Do you mind if I do a hatchet job on convoluted self aggrandizing stunts executed purely to get book deals?
That's what this is

Finnegan's book is all you need if you want to know where to play in Ireland, or the Peugeot Guide.

Take a look at the 3 and 4 star ratings on Amazon.  After reading these, I decided to pass.

Ronald Montesano

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2009, 08:29:26 PM »
1...http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ron.mon/2009/02/11/book_review_a_course_called_ireland

2...Lloyd Cole...sorry you have a burr in your saddle re: Coyne...simply put, I disagree.

3...I think Garrity is too tall to be a writer...

4...Did the Colt book mention The Park Club, Williamsville, NY, at all?
Coming in 2025
~Robert Moses Pitch 'n Putt
~~Sag Harbor
~~~Chenango Valley
~~~~Sleepy Hollow
~~~~~Montauk Downs
~~~~~~Sunken Meadow
~~~~~~~Some other, posh joints ;)

J_ Crisham

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2009, 08:37:32 PM »
Re - A course Called Ireland

Not to suggest that that any of the above is wrong, one man's meat, etc - just to offer a different perspective, I was asked to review the book. Here's my note to the reviews editor -

The book is the worst of golf books
Do you mind if I do a hatchet job on convoluted self aggrandizing stunts executed purely to get book deals?
That's what this is

Finnegan's book is all you need if you want to know where to play in Ireland, or the Peugeot Guide.
Lloyd,  I would certainly agree that Finnegan's books are the best but I thought that Coyne's book was what it was meant to be- an entertaining look at an unconventional trip thru Eire. As they say in Ireland -I thought it was just GRAND!  I have made many trips to Ireland starting in 1976, can't say I've seen it from Coyne's perspective. I would agree to disagree with your assessment of the book-sounds like you were angry by the authors purported motives versus the substance of his book .  Wish you well,  Jack

Ronald Montesano

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2009, 09:30:28 PM »
I'm going to take offense with Lloyd's commentary:  Coyne's book only half-fits on this site, as only half of it is meant to deal with golf course architecture.  The other half is no "self-aggrandizing" stunt; it allows us to entertain the impossible, as George Plimpton did two generations ago.  If Coyne had been after "self-aggrandizement," he would have walked to a course or two, ridden a donkey, hitch-hiked a ton and taken his share of buses.  What he did was hoof it the entire way and good for him.

Lloyd, do you really think editors are so stupid as to fall for the type of ploy you suggest?  Have you read Coyne's previous efforts?  If so, then you will agree that his proposals are valid and deserve a contract.  From my perspective, he is three-for-three.  I'd read him just as often as I'd read Turk Pipkin.
Coming in 2025
~Robert Moses Pitch 'n Putt
~~Sag Harbor
~~~Chenango Valley
~~~~Sleepy Hollow
~~~~~Montauk Downs
~~~~~~Sunken Meadow
~~~~~~~Some other, posh joints ;)

Brad Klein

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2009, 10:40:56 PM »
George Plimpton wasn't self-aggrandizing in his books? All of his sports books were stunts. 

Ronald Montesano

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2009, 10:47:42 PM »
Point taken; I should have written that Coyne goes beyond Plimpton's self-aggrandizing stunts.  I don't get for a second that the notion can be applied to Coyne.  When he attempted to qualify for the tour, it was a solid, 1.5-2 year dedication.  He doesn't do things lightly, nor does he limit claimed expertise to one province (such as GCA.)
Coming in 2025
~Robert Moses Pitch 'n Putt
~~Sag Harbor
~~~Chenango Valley
~~~~Sleepy Hollow
~~~~~Montauk Downs
~~~~~~Sunken Meadow
~~~~~~~Some other, posh joints ;)

Lloyd_Cole

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2009, 11:07:58 PM »
Ronald

Clearly you can read

Why ignore this -

Not to suggest that that any of the above is wrong, one man's meat, etc - just to offer a different perspective..

In short, off my back please. I tried to read it. I thought it was garbage.

David Kelly

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2009, 01:49:08 AM »
Lloyd, do you really think editors are so stupid as to fall for the type of ploy you suggest?  .

Fall for it? As someone who buys books for a living I can tell you that not only are they falling for it, the publishers are out there suggesting these type of ideas and looking for books like that. 

They are known as stunt memoirs and people sell a lot of these things.  A.J Jacobs wrote one about reading the entire Encyclopedia Britannica cover-to-cover so Ammon Shea went out and topped him by writing a book about reading the whole Oxford English Dictionary. Joe Queenan wrote about trying to live like a saint and then his rival Jacobs writes a book called, "The Year of Living Biblically".

Having read it I wouldn't say it was garbage although I would say it was weak and at times really juvenile.
 
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." - Judge Holden, Blood Meridian.

George Pazin

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2009, 11:06:01 AM »
Thanks for the many reviews.

Reading tastes are as unique to the individual as musical tastes or culinary tastes, imho. Bamberger bored the heck out of me, but plenty of folks love him. To each his own.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Dan Boerger

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2009, 11:19:24 AM »

Am I the only guy waiting for Wayne Morrisson's book on Flynn?
"Man should practice moderation in all things, including moderation."  Mark Twain

Scott Macpherson

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2009, 01:59:39 PM »

Am I the only guy waiting for Wayne Morrisson's book on Flynn?

Nope, I am too.

scott

Brian Phillips

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2009, 04:27:22 PM »
Spoke to Wayne last week and he is working away slowly.  He said he is only going to publish a certain number so if you want a copy you should let him know as soon as you can.

Brian
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

PCCraig

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2009, 05:14:17 PM »
Spoke to Wayne last week and he is working away slowly.  He said he is only going to publish a certain number so if you want a copy you should let him know as soon as you can.

Brian

I think I would buy three copies, at least. Unless it is like that Old Tom book that costs $1,000.

Where can you e-mail Wayne?
H.P.S.

PCCraig

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2009, 05:21:49 PM »
This is a good thread as I am heading to Borders after work to stock up. I'm reporting to Cook County Jury Duty tomorrow morning and I am going to need plenty of reading material.

Perhaps I will see one of the many lawyers that post here and claim a conflict of interest...I enjoy Tom Fazio and R Jones while they try to claim my insanity!  ;) :) ;)
H.P.S.

PThomas

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2009, 05:31:10 PM »
This is a good thread as I am heading to Borders after work to stock up. I'm reporting to Cook County Jury Duty tomorrow morning and I am going to need plenty of reading material.

Perhaps I will see one of the many lawyers that post here and claim a conflict of interest...I enjoy Tom Fazio and R Jones while they try to claim my insanity!  ;) :) ;)

i'm sure they will have a tv on Pat with such ultra-ecuational programming like Oprah or Judge Judy or Jerry Springer :P :-\ :'( ::) ???
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PCCraig

Re: New Golf Books?
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2009, 05:49:22 PM »
This is a good thread as I am heading to Borders after work to stock up. I'm reporting to Cook County Jury Duty tomorrow morning and I am going to need plenty of reading material.

Perhaps I will see one of the many lawyers that post here and claim a conflict of interest...I enjoy Tom Fazio and R Jones while they try to claim my insanity!  ;) :) ;)

i'm sure they will have a tv on Pat with such ultra-ecuational programming like Oprah or Judge Judy or Jerry Springer :P :-\ :'( ::) ???

I may not make it back here to post if I try to change it to the Golf Channel!!!!  ;D
H.P.S.

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