Forbes Traveler

« **on:** March 22, 2009, 05:11:11 PM »

http://www.forbestraveler.com/golf/best-golf-cities-us-slide.html

Hmmm.... I am not sure if I agree with the #1 (especially after a recent thread).

Shouldn't NY be high up here?

What are your top 10 based on architecture?

« **Reply #1 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:33:49 PM »

Weird list--it seems like its all about public golf, but then it gets into SFGC, Lake Merced and Olympic for San Francisco.

Seems like something around Pinehurst would have to be included, as with Myrtle Beach.

« **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2009, 06:38:26 PM »

Quick comments ...

Denver most certainly belongs -- the range and affordability of courses is certainly present.

Please drop the emphasis on Atlantic City. There are only a very few layouts worth making a special visit to the area.

No issue with Chicago being mentioned -- but one can make a strong case for places like Pinehurst to be also included. Ditto the Carmel / Monterey area. If SF is included in any listing it's primarily because of the private side of the equation.

« **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:07:41 PM »

why not just list bandon 10 times and be done with it?

San Francisco? then you certainly have to list New York and Philly
heck ,Southampton has as many great private options as San Francisco

« **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:51:12 PM »

What course is that in the picture for Chicago? Harborside??

« **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:53:26 PM »

Looks like the spell-checker got them on Yeamans Hall.

« **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:58:10 PM »

Because the list is only available via an unnecessarily tedious slide-show (please click 10 times so we can show you 10 different ads), I am supplying it here.

10. Las Vegas
Orlando
Denver
San Antonio
Atlantic City
Myrtle Beach
Charleston
SF
Scottsdale/PHX
1. Chicago

What a bizarre list. Just to elaborate on a point above, Monterey is a bigger town than Myrtle Beach, and Monterey County has more people than the MB metro area (which itself includes more than just Horry County). Fwiw, Pinehurst and Moore County are decidely smaller than either.

Given the first sentence of the accompanying article is "Going on a business trip to a big city?," AC and MB are indeed curious inclusions. Maybe AC is intended to cover NYC and Philly?

How about Portland and ABQ instead? Also I assume Orlando was included because hey, there should be a Florida city on the list.

« **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2009, 08:05:37 PM »

Not everyone that's paid to write is qualified to write. Sight unseen, this might be a prime example.

« **Reply #8 on:** March 22, 2009, 09:43:20 PM »

I live in the Chicago area and have played just about every worthwhile club/course here. I have to say what little I've seen in Philly is as good or better than what we have in Chicago. It seems as the topography in Philly is much better than what we have here. WE do have more knowledgable GCA guys though!

Jack

« **Reply #9 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:34:21 AM »

Bizarre.....

« **Reply #10 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:03:11 AM »

I don't know of enybody on here that would agree with this list.

Anthony

« **Reply #11 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:22:27 AM »

"On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

W.C Fields

« **Reply #12 on:** March 23, 2009, 10:41:57 AM »

As a Chicagoan, I object to being Number 1 at anything!

Heck, we'll take the publicity and we'll put our city up against any other in America when it comes to visiting for a weekend or a week, but the list (like all lists) is a bit suspect.

« **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2009, 11:00:14 AM »

I remember seeing San Francisco listed as one of the worst golfing cities in another publication within the last 5 years.

I guess it all depends on whether or not you're a public course golfer.

« **Reply #14 on:** March 23, 2009, 11:04:06 AM »

Pat, the pictured course is Prairie Landing, and I agree with Jack C's assessment of the gca devotees in the Windy City

« **Reply #15 on:** March 23, 2009, 05:52:00 PM »

Quote from: Matt_Ward on March 22, 2009, 06:38:26 PM

Denver most certainly belongs -- the range and affordability of courses is certainly present.

I just find it interesting that on the recent Golfweek "Places you can play" thread, only one of their top 10 courses in the state is near Denver (two, if you can Larkspur as being nearby).

I actually do like a good number of public courses around the town, but it is interesting to contrast the golfweek results with this list.......

« **Reply #16 on:** March 23, 2009, 05:53:54 PM »

What is the golf capital of the US?

« **Reply #17 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:20:37 PM »

So what are the ten best? Or better yet, what's on the list after the big five:
Chicago
LA
New York
Philly
SF / Monterey

Here's a starter list:
Albuquerque
Boston
Charleston
Cleveland
Denver
Miami / WPB
MSP
Portland
San Antonio
Scottsdale / PHX

(I am assuming access, since Forbes did.)

What other options? Maybe DFW or Atlanta?

« **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:27:22 PM »

Don't forget Columbus with Scioto, Muirfield Village, OSU scarlet, The Golf Club, etc. Ohio is state that has to be top5. Cal, NY, Penn, Ill, would be my other choices in no particular order. Jack

« **Reply #19 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:47:48 PM »

Is this list based on golf course quality or tee time/play availability?

Most of the great courses in Philadelphia are private...

« **Reply #20 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:19:09 PM »

I'm sorry but the best cities in America to find great golf starts with Bandon. Then goes down the coast to Pebble and across the country to Pinehurst.

Anthony

« **Reply #21 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:39:37 PM »

Quote from: Anthony Gray on March 23, 2009, 09:19:09 PM

I'm sorry but the best cities in America to find great golf starts with Bandon. Then goes down the coast to Pebble and across the country to Pinehurst.

Many a Bandon thread happens to include the phrase "there's nothing else to do there." Bandon is a great golf destination, but it isn't a great golf *city*.

Kyle, please see my note re private courses. (But yeah, a public-only list wouldn't be bad either.)

Jack, I guess I gave the Ohio spot to Cleveland on the basis of ODGs, but I see your point.

« **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:44:10 PM »

If it's best cities for PUBLIC golf, then Philly shouldn't be anywhere near the top of the list, for the posters who mentioned Philly.

As Kyle stated, Philly area has a number of great private courses.
Great public ones...not so much.

« **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:48:36 PM »

They should have made it North America so Toronto could be first - O snap!

Seems like a pretty half assed effort to put a list together due to the impossible to understand criteria for measurement.

Would agree that the slide shoe nature of the list is proof that the main driver was advertising, not insight.

« **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:48:00 AM »

Ditto the comments on Philadelphia -- great for private but woefully short on the depth of quality public layouts when compared to a range of other key American cities. Denver, to name just one, would trash the City of Brotherly Love on that score.

You can also throw out the Big Apple for the same reasoning.

Good call by those who have inserted Albuquerque into the mix.

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