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Garland Bayley

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Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2009, 04:39:24 PM »
Mike, sorry, please don't take this comment personally,  but I find this subject offensive.

We don't need earmarks, we need intelligent financial planning and spending.

The financial meltdown worldwide is an extremely serious situation.



Cary,

Please think of these as shovel ready golf infrastructure projects that will bring jobs to people so that they will start spending and stimulating the economy. I never understand the logic of giving me a tax cut when I think my job may be in jeopardy. No way am I going to spend that.

These projects will have to be properly vetted for potential worth and lasting effect.

These are not to be dropped into a spending package with litlle to trace their origin. Indeed as you see everyone is taking responsibility for their proposals here.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Kalen Braley

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Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2009, 04:45:25 PM »
Cary,

This is a serious situation indeed, but even a few Democrats in the Senate found it funny, so why can't we enjoy some levity too! Consider this clip from CNN.


In a prime-time address before a joint session of Congress, Obama last week praised the $787 billion stimulus package signed into law, telling the nation, "I'm proud that we passed a recovery plan free of earmarks, and I want to pass a budget next year that ensures that each dollar we spend reflects only our most important national priorities."

But some in the audience found that hard to swallow.

"There was just a roar of laughter -- because there were earmarks," said Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Missouri.



Doug Ralston

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Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2009, 07:04:47 PM »
Ran?

Ran?

Doug
Where is everybody? Where is Tommy N? Where is John K? Where is Jay F? What has happened here? Has my absence caused this chaos? I'm sorry. All my rowdy friends have settled down ......... somewhere else!

cary lichtenstein

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Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2009, 09:13:56 PM »
Cary,

This is a serious situation indeed, but even a few Democrats in the Senate found it funny, so why can't we enjoy some levity too! Consider this clip from CNN.


In a prime-time address before a joint session of Congress, Obama last week praised the $787 billion stimulus package signed into law, telling the nation, "I'm proud that we passed a recovery plan free of earmarks, and I want to pass a budget next year that ensures that each dollar we spend reflects only our most important national priorities."


How much credibility does he expect us to have in him when he makes a ridiculous statement like the above? I just don't get it. Does he expect us to drink the Cool-Aid????







But some in the audience found that hard to swallow.

"There was just a roar of laughter -- because there were earmarks," said Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Missouri.



Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Mike Sweeney

Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2009, 09:26:56 PM »
Cary,

I spent the day in Queens Family Court trying to help a 21 year old girl from Guyana preserve her rights with her 18 month old baby girl. I am not her lawyer or any lawyer, just a family friend.

I then spent the late afternoon and evening at a real estate conference.

I personally have had enough serious subjects for the day, and I ask that you take the politics to a different thread. This thread was meant to have a little fun and talk about the fairly light topic of golf course architecture.

Thanks.

Matt_Ward

Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2009, 09:35:34 PM »
Mike S:

If $$ were available -- fix BB and bring it back to the rough-looking course it used to be. The post Rees Jones show has transformed a course of character into a steroid-induced muscular brute.

Create a driveable finishing hole with a green of real character.

Play the 13th as a sensible risk-and-reward type hole -- not some 600+ yard monster that mandates three shots for 99.99% of the field.

Fix the first three holes because the majesty of BB only begins at the 4th.

Ken Moum

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Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2009, 09:57:19 PM »
I just want enough money to bail out my home course, Shawnee CC in Topeka, from the $1 million loan that a full-of-itself board negotiated 20+ years ago instead simply spending the insurance money it got from a clubhouse fire.

Now, the super is trying to grow grass on budget that's lower than it was in 1990, because our current board thinks the F&B operation is subsidizing the golf course.

Over time, the guy in the ideal position derives an advantage, and delivering him further  advantage is not worth making the rest of the players suffer at the expense of fun, variety, and ultimately cost -- Jeff Warne, 12-08-2010

Mike Sweeney

Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2009, 10:09:45 PM »
Mike S:

If $$ were available -- fix BB and bring it back to the rough-looking course it used to be. The post Rees Jones show has transformed a course of character into a steroid-induced muscular brute.

AGREE TO AN EXTENT. I THINK A CHANGE IN MOWING PATTERNS WOULD SOLVE 80% OF THE PROBLEMS.

Create a driveable finishing hole with a green of real character.

GREAT CONCEPT, BUT NOT SURE YOU CAN GET IT SHORT ENOUGH WITH THE TERRAIN THAT IS THERE.

Play the 13th as a sensible risk-and-reward type hole -- not some 600+ yard monster that mandates three shots for 99.99% of the field.

AGREED

Fix the first three holes because the majesty of BB only begins at the 4th.

I AM PERSONALLY A BIG FAN OF THE SECOND HOLE, BUT SEEM TO BE ALONE ON THIS ONE.

Michael Whitaker

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Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2009, 10:53:22 PM »
My stimulus package:
Require every municipality over 250,000 people develop a twenty dollar golf course for it's local use.

BINGO!!! These courses should be all walking... and, they should let anyone under 13 play for $2.00.
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

Mike_Cirba

Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2009, 12:14:31 AM »
My stimulus package:
Require every municipality over 250,000 people develop a twenty dollar golf course for it's local use.

BINGO!!! These courses should be all walking... and, they should let anyone under 13 play for $2.00.

Now we're talking!   

Doug Wright

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Re: What are your Earmarks ?
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2009, 11:59:26 AM »
Restore Wellshire GC, Denver, CO. A Ross 1920s gem buried under 70+ years of municipal neglect. Chainsaws and shovels required to eliminate trees, redo/recreate bunkers, etc.
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