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Joe Bausch

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Re: What constitutes an ideal hole for golf? ARTICLE #4 NOW POSTED
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2009, 10:11:44 AM »
Here is article #5:

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Joe Bausch

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Re: What constitutes an ideal hole for golf? The pot bunker is evil!
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2009, 08:04:55 PM »
Perhaps the 6th of this series might revive this thread.  ;)

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Joe Bausch

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Here's number 7 of 18:

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Joe Bausch

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Re: What constitutes an ideal hole for golf? #8 now up.
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2009, 05:11:16 AM »
"The ninth at Apawamis..."

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Joe Bausch

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Re: What constitutes an ideal hole for golf? The Ninth at Apawamis...
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2009, 11:29:04 AM »
Much depends upon the position and character of the hazards:

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Joe Bausch

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Re: What constitutes an ideal hole for golf? ...hazards...
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2009, 06:12:08 AM »
Part 11.

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Rich Goodale

Joe

I'd love to know what English club it was that was mentioned in the article attached to post#28 as having invited Old Tom Morris in to review their course and then having him tell them to rip up all the tees and greens and start again!

Rich

Mike_Cirba

Joe,

These articles are awesome.   Thanks for your time posting them.

Joe Bausch

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I think the 12th in this series might really be of interest as NGLA is discussed:

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TEPaul

Re: WCAIHIG? Close approach to it achieved on the so-called "National Links"
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2009, 01:04:04 PM »
Joe Bausch:

When I need new prescriptions for my reading glasses, which will be pretty soon due to reading these old newspaper articles, you will find a fairly large bill in your mail which I would appreciate you paying on time!

Joe Bausch

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Re: WCAIHIG? Close approach to it achieved on the so-called "National Links"
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2009, 02:08:52 PM »
Joe Bausch:

When I need new prescriptions for my reading glasses, which will be pretty soon due to reading these old newspaper articles, you will find a fairly large bill in your mail which I would appreciate you paying on time!

I just updated the last one to have slightly larger text.  I'll try to remember to do the same with the others in the series to come!

Edit:  all of those above have been updated to larger text now!
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Joe Bausch

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Re: WCAIHIG? Close approach to it achieved on the so-called "National Links"
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2009, 06:31:43 PM »
More talk that includes NGLA:

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Peter Pallotta

Thanks, Joe -

check out how he describes the 7th, the punchbowl: at 400 yards, "just two good shots for the average golfer, provided all goes well...".  Ahh, provided all goes VERY well, I'd say. Either that, or 'average' wasn't so average back in 1909. It's now the 16th hole, and measures all of 5 yards longer, at 405.

Peter
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Joe Bausch

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Chapter 14 of 18:  Varying Opinions on Famous Courses – A Score and a Half of "Don'ts"

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Joe Bausch

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Re: WCAIHIG? Much Done in Course Construction That Must Be Undone
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2009, 07:01:31 AM »
"Much Done in Course Construction That Must Be Undone"

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TEPaul

Re: WCAIHIG? Much Done in Course Construction That Must Be Undone
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2009, 10:14:03 AM »
Peter:

The punchbowl (#16) is a very unusual looking hole. I'm not sure I've ever seen one like it in its entirety. But it's pretty clever because it's quite hard for most golfers to keep a drive on the ridge between two enormous fairway bowls on either side of it. So most of the time drives get in those two huge fairway bowls from which one can't see anything above him but sky. The green if fronted by another very large mound so you can't see the green either from anywhere on an approach.

However, if you get the distance of your approach fairly correct and hit it relatively solid the fact is the green-end is pretty collecting of the ball. I've always thought it was a very interesting approach shot accommodation for a pretty difficult tee shot situation.

Joe Bausch

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Re: WCAIHIG? Much Done in Course Construction That Must Be Undone
« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2009, 11:01:26 AM »
"Putting on an Undulating Green with the Hole Situated on a Slope":

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Joe Bausch

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Re: WCAIHIG? Putting on an Undulating Green with the Hole Situated on a Slope
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2009, 11:08:55 AM »
I'm posting these a little faster than originally as I'll be away from my internet connection from Friday until Tuesday.  It is time for my nearly annual pilgrimage to play golf someplace warm during our my school's semester break.  This year my 'Nova gumbahs will be heading to North Myrtle Beach (playing the Pearl east and west, The Dunes, Barefoot Love, Tiger's Eye, and Tidewater).

If any other GCAers are down there from Saturday until Tu afternoon and would like to get together, shoot me an e-mail.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: WCAIHIG? Much Done in Course Construction That Must Be Undone
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2009, 11:13:27 AM »
Thanks Tom - you described/explained that very well. I guess there are many holes out there where par is not defended at the green but actually enabled, but the 16th seems like it's the prime example of that approach, i.e. the basic principle made manifest, purely.  

Peter

Joe Bausch

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Re: WCAIHIG? Putting on an Undulating Green with the Hole Situated on a Slope
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2009, 01:03:59 PM »
"So-Called Improvements to Courses That Fail to Improve"

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Joe Bausch

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Re: WCAIHIG? So-Called Improvements to Courses That Fail to Improve
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2009, 08:52:26 PM »
This is the last of this fascinating series of articles from the 1909 New York Tribune by PC Pulver.  Thanks for playing along at home!

"Retrapping and Bunkering a Course Often Work Wonders":

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Mike_Cirba

Joe,

Thanks again for all your work putting this together.

I have a question for everyone and it's something I've been thinking about off and on for a spell and this last article really brings it home.

What do you think these early writers meant when they referred to "trapping" and "Bunkering" as if they were two different, separate things?

I've seen a number of articles that spoke of them separately, as I'm sure you have, as well.

I'd be curious what people think..


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