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Cliff Hamm

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Grand Cypress
« on: February 01, 2009, 10:51:58 AM »
Was planning on playing Deltona Club and Sugarloaf Mountain.  Got a great deal on priceline for the Grand Cypress resort - $85 a night plus golf! Will be there for 3 nights/3rounds of golf.  Playing the New Course day of arrival - again great deal $75 through Golfnow.com.

Deltona is at least an hour up I4 so that will be for another time.  Sugarloaf Mountain is 36 minutes and looks quite doable.  How would you split rounds?  If I decide 2 rounds at Grand Cypress would you play both days on the New Course or also play North/South/East? 

As usual thanks...

Mike_Cirba

Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 11:05:23 AM »
Cliff,

I'd play both, simply because they represent two distinct schools of architecture and because both are...well, worth seeing for different reasons.

Nice price in any case!

Bill_McBride

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 11:11:02 AM »
Cliff, I would agree with Mike.  The original Grand Cypress (North/South, East was added later) represent early Nicklaus penal school architecture, plus many straight lines, sharp edges and abrupt drop offs (see #1 South? that is #10 in standard routing, there's an 18" drop off that could hurt a distracted cart driver).  There are also lots of chocolate drop mounds with palmetto grass tops.

The New Course is fun but it's a pretty lame homage to TOC St Andrews.

cary lichtenstein

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 11:18:49 AM »
I think Grand Cypress should be a pass, the arch is not enjoyable
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Joel Zuckerman

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 11:23:14 AM »
FYI---A buddy on this site went to Sugarloaf Mtn last week and said the conditions were abominable, so be warned.

Jason Connor

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 12:02:30 PM »
Cliff, when are you coming down?

I'll gladly take you out to my course too (though you don't need me, it's public/private), a fun Mike Dasher (Dasher is a member here) course called North Shore GC.

Minimum earth movement, cheap to construct, fantastic greens, and a fun group of regulars.

I went up to Deltona two weeks ago and it was very good.  Just amazing greens.  I haven't made the trip to Sugarloaf yet, but I've been meaning too. 

But let me know if you need a 2nd or 4th.

We discovered that in good company there is no such thing as a bad golf course.  - James Dodson

Cliff Hamm

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 12:17:19 PM »
Jason..thanks very much for the offer.  Unfortunately this is a spousal not a buddy trip, but I appreciate your consideration.

Joel...how bad were the conditions.  Tend to get to Florida for a few days every winter and could play another time if conditions seriously impact the experience.  Thinking maybe just give it 3 rounds at Grand Cypress?

Joel_Stewart

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 01:15:36 PM »
I've played both multiple times including the original North/South when it first opened.  It was big stuff back then, Greg Norman was the touring pro since he lived in Orlando.  The Nicklaus design was fairly unique, offering chocalate drops and some pretty crazy mounding.    Since then it has been softened up and the course is very playable, almost pitch and putt in certain spots.

I would do 1 and 1 since you'll probably get bored playing the same course twice.  If I had to play 1 course a 2nd time it probably would be the New course since it's fun and you can try and play multiple shots as opposed to the north/south.

Joel Zuckerman

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2009, 07:29:02 PM »


Joel...how bad were the conditions. 

I cannot say personally, as I was not there myself.  But--a GCA webiste buddy of mine, who I spent time with at the PGA Show in Orlando last week, was NOT complimentary about his experience there last Wednesday.  Said the layout was fine, but the course conditions left a ton to be desired...that's all I can tell you.

Nick Pozaric

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2009, 09:10:17 PM »
I played Sugarloaf Mountain last week and the greens were VERY VERY bad shape.  The rest of the course was in very good condition and a very good routing. 

John_Conley

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 02:40:11 PM »
Two rounds of N/S for every round on New if you are up for a challenge...reverse it if you are in the mood for enjoyable, wide-open golf.

Enjoy Orlando.   Those are great rates.

Matt_Ward

Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 02:43:58 PM »
Cliff:

If you are staying at GC -- be sure to eat at Hemmingway's for dinner. Also, try the bar adjoining the place for a fine cigar after meal accessory !

I echo what John C mentioned -- great rates although the golf dimension is nothing more than standard Florida fanfare.

Mitch Hantman

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Re: Grand Cypress
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 02:57:49 PM »
Cliff,

I recently played Sugarloaf.  It is a very enjoyable course, but the greens are pretty awful.  Still playable, but difficult to putt for score.  Fairways are reasonably firm.