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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2009, 12:50:56 PM »
Dave,
The Obamas got a 1.3mm mortgage on a 1.65mm sale against a house that listed for 1.9mm, the 330k down payment for said transaction came from a book advance.

I live in an extremely high priced and desireable location that's filled with multi million dollar homes, and it's not unusual to see accepted offers at 10 to 20% below the ask, especially when transactions get into these kinds of numbers.

Thank you for stating that you have no proof.    
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2009, 12:54:34 PM »
RJ,
Somebody (preferably a pharmacist) needs to give Dave an 8 year supply of Valium.  ;)
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Dan King

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2009, 12:59:08 PM »
Lou Duran writes:
Studies and polls on the political orientation of Big Media reveal a huge- around 90%- preference for Democrat candidates.

What polls and studies are those?

Perhaps you mean the often quoted  Media Research Center study that showed that showed the majority of journalists who gave money to a candidate gave to democrats.

The reality of that study was 143 working journalists gave to a political candidate, out of a working press of some 100,000. Therefore, 99.957 percent gave to no candidate, 0.125 gave to democrats and 0.016 gave to republicans.  Try to find another profession that is 99.957 percent impartial.

Both sides have been whining about the partiality of the press for centuries. You know how easy it is to infiltrate the press? If conservatives really are unrepresented in the press it is their own damn fault. What happened to the concept of taking responsibility?

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Lou_Duran

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2009, 01:42:09 PM »
Jim Kennedy,

You are responding to issues and "facts" that I have not made.  As Jim Nugent said, my comments on the main were in reference to the way Obama has handled the media.  I am unaware that I brought up Bush except on the specific point of the media's characterization of the 2005 inauguration's cost.  I am, however, painfully aware- I've heard or seen it nearly every day in the media for the last eight years- that he is despised by a large segment of the population.

My alleged biases aside, I like some aspects of Senator Obama.  He is articulate, comes across warmly, and seems to have a nice family.  Most importantly, regardless of how it was done, he has achieved phenomenomly in the public sector.  However, at the end of the day, the man is a socialist and few good things will spring from his initiatives.

Mike Sweeney,

If you don't know the definition of Big Media (BM), I'll let Mr. Mucci educate you.  I'll also defer to your fingers and whatever search engine you prefer to glean the left's position on the 2005 (but, what the hell, here is but one sampling- http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=2005+inauguration+spending ).

As to being smart (or not) or lazy, you may wish to re-read what I wrote then re-consider.  I never questioned Obama's spending on his inauguration.  Like CEO salaries, in the scope of the real numbers involved, they are a pittance, a red-herring.  My only point regarding the inaugurations' costs was specifically about how BM chose to characterize them.  But Mike, what do they say about pointing fingers (one at the accused, three at the accuser)?

Regarding your friend Henry and your pedophile priest, many of us have known people who've committed serious crimes and more than a few of us have done things that we're not proud of.  But so what?  Are you saying that this is analogous to Obama's situation with Rezko?  I doubt that you took money from either of these people and otherwise benefited financially while they were commiting their crimes.  As Mr. Kennedy suggested earlier, the proof required in a courtroom to link Obama to Chicago crime figures probably doesn't exist.  Do smart people not vet campaign contributions and the motivations behind sweetheart real estate deals?  I mostly think they do.

Lastly, just for my own curiousity, had you come across Michael Moore or even Katie Couric interviewing people on the sidewalk, would you have felt compelled to yell at him or her?  Just trying to assess your claim of being an "independent" (perhaps I should refer this over to Mr. Mucci for definition).

Dan King,

I don't remember the source of my information.  But you, the master of the internet search, can certainly find it if your motivation is to seek "the truth".  You can denude any study, particularly when dealing in the social sciences.  Admitedly, the scholarship in many of these is not particularly impressive.

Again, I am not whining about the left wing media.  It is what it is and we should recognize it accordingly.  My whine is when it represents itself as something that it clearly is not.

So, you think the conservative "collective" should do something about "infiltrating" BM?  Here I thought that taking responsibility is an individual thing.  I'll have to see what one of my favorite authors Ann Colter thinks about this.    ;)     

       


John Kirk

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2009, 02:00:09 PM »
Has this thread been hijacked?

Just wondering.

Sean_A

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2009, 02:56:46 PM »
It would also be interesting to know just how much and which elements of the media are demoratically owned compared to republican owned.  I don't know for certain, but I strongly suspect that claim of lefties controlling the media is totally bogus - probably left over beliefs from the Nixon days.  Anybody know how the numbers break down?

To bring this back toward some semblance of the original thread - nothing I have read thus far has convinced me that spending tax dollars on golf courses is sound practice.

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2009, 03:26:52 PM »
Lou,
I responded to your statement.... "And I am in full agreement, we all must come together for the sake of our country (though inquiring minds want to know why this wasn't necessary between 1980 to 1992 and 2000 through 2008"  ....which was a broadside, not a specific reference to inauguration costs. Poll numbers showed that we set aside certain differences and came together, by a significant plurality, in support of the policies and actions of our government for a good chunk of time between the years 2000 & 2008., and you shouldn't be forgetting that the same committment was made by the American people for our first go-round in the desert in '90/'91. And Reagan in the '80s, what'd he win election by, one vote?  

You also said:"I've heard or seen it nearly every day in the media for the last eight years that he is despised by a large segment of the population"
So, you must have been reading/watching only the biased Liberal media, because I saw great love for Bush being expressed every day for the past eight years in all the Conservative media outlets, all though I must say they don't show much love for the Liberals.   

« Last Edit: January 17, 2009, 03:38:01 PM by Jim_Kennedy »
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Mike Sweeney

Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2009, 04:03:09 PM »

Lastly, just for my own curiousity, had you come across Michael Moore or even Katie Couric interviewing people on the sidewalk, would you have felt compelled to yell at him or her?  Just trying to assess your claim of being an "independent" (perhaps I should refer this over to Mr. Mucci for definition).


Lou,

Like many things on the internet, this come out incorrectly by me and was then misunderstood by you. It was a situational incident during the insanity of getting to a Broadway show in Times Square. The comment was focused on my wife on the left and Sean Hannity on the right. It would have been fun (by me at least) to see them together. 

PS. I voted for George Bush in 2000.
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Lou_Duran

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2009, 05:45:12 PM »
John Kirk,

You are right.  I am sorry for my part in it. 

Relative to the specific question of the thread, I opined earlier that if govt. is going to spend trillions it doesn't have, then golf might as well get a piece of it.  But rather than stimulate golf on the supply side- it is already operating well under capacity in most parts of the country- a superior approach might be to spur demand (thus the tongue-in-cheek suggestion of reddemable golf stamps).  Of course, I think that the neo-New Deal on steroids we have embarked on is precisely ass backwards.  And this too will have very bad consequences on the industry.

Jim Kennedy,

I was wrong to state that my comments were limited to the media response to the inaugurations, though I do make a distinction between what the media states as the mood and opinion of the people and the actual things.   Bush did enjoy a brief period of broad support shortly after 9/11.  But Bush and Reagan never enjoyed media support or affection, and the core 30% or so of Democrats could never get over Gore's defeat.  And I do read and listen to a broad range of reporting and opinions.

Mike Sweeney,

I would have enjoyed an exchange between your wife and Sean.  Civil, spirited discourse should be encouraged not avoided.       

RJ_Daley

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2009, 06:32:23 PM »
Somewhat thinking along the lines that Geoff posited, and in keeping with my dark and brooding pessimism that things are already FUBAR after the policies, cronyism, and lack of national-social and economic-financial stewardship of the last 8 years, I really wonder if the effects of an injection of so-called bailout money to a sector of golf course management and sustainability would last long, if the rest of the whole deal fails.  What will the mood be towards and about golf then?  What will be a national mood if the next 4 years crashes and burns economically?  Golf my friends, IMHO, if it would be the recipients of significant taxpayer bailouts, would become the very iconicization of that culmination of years of excess corporate greed and elitism.  Most here know that golf is much broader than that.  We all know that golf is a recreation on many levels of people and classes.  But, the sport always has carried a bit of that elitist stigma as it has been.  I'd think that the vast majority of people (after all they say only about 25million in US are real golfers) those that don't golf would look at the sport and the industry as a very dark negative.  But I could be and hope I'd be wrong...

For what it is worth (~.02cents) I think that those that don't wish for the next admin to succeed for whatever personal bitter feelings of loss of the upper hand of national stewardship and no longer being on the "in" crowd, had still better hope and pray that this next 4 years doesn't crash and burn.  Because if their calculus is that the country will swing back to them, I think they are in for a very startling surprise.  I think they won't be able to spin future ineffectiveness to fight off this deep morass of economic problems left here now as misfired socialist theory and practice.  I think the vast majority are getting smart enough to realise where our woes really came from (corrupt policies and practices of a share of both Dems and Reps on personal power trips and personal self dealing for favors and special legislation against the best interests of the vast majority of people) and that would be the point where very radical solutions would be sought should Obama fail. 
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2009, 06:46:39 PM »
Lou,
That same 30% of dyed-in-the-wool Democrats exist in the Republican party also, they are the ones who still think "W" did a good job.

There were many months of positive polling during the administrations of Bush 1 & 11 & The Lone Reagan. Bush Sr. & (especially) RR are still looked on with some fondness. As I posted earlier, Bush jr. had positive #'s for at least 2 years of his term, but I guess the facts can be made to fit whatever position someone takes, pro or con.  
 

      
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2009, 09:32:53 PM »
I still don't see any proof Dave, I only see you  'spinning'.

The really sad part is that you believe your own spin in lieu of any proof.   

You've called him a criminal, an easy mark, and suggest that more of the same is likely to happen in the future.

I had thought you were a larger man than that. Sorry 



 
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Mike Sweeney

Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2009, 09:35:06 PM »
Shivas,

Thanks for the update. If you type in "obama rezco" in google you get 946,000 results. If you type in "mccain keating" into google you get 1.4 million results.

All of this has been covered and you have offered nothing new.

The was all covered during the election and the results stand:

Obama: 64,385,746 popular votes; 349 electoral votes
McCain: 56,712,551 popular votes; 163 electoral votes

It is not a perfect system here in the US, but it is the best there is, I believe. I do respect your belief that it can and should be better, but I would focus in on 2012. Personally I would like to see Bobby Jindal run in 2012. Then Michael Moore (our Michael Moore) can spread some Brown University gossip around!


John Mayhugh

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2009, 09:52:32 PM »
No interest in getting involved in the political discussion, but just had to say thumbs up to Mike for bringing Melvin Udall into the discussion.  Oh, if politicians were so honest.

My "As Good As It Gets" quote:
Some have great stories, pretty stories that take place at lakes with boats and friends and noodle salad. Just, no one in this car. But, a lot of people, that's their story. Good times, noodle salad. What makes it so hard is not that you had it bad, but that you're that pissed that so many others had it good.

RJ_Daley

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2009, 11:42:14 PM »
Dave, you are on the case.  You are a securities attorney.  You should have great understanding of this stuff.  Why don't you, or why haven't you been so analytical and critical of George W in all of his shady dealings.  If this Resko thing looks like an influence buyer and peddler propping up a rising star politician, then the whole Bush Harken Oil, DeWitt-Rainwater Texas Rangers sweetheart deals ought to be a gold mine for a fellow that has so much to unmask in our corrupt political environment. 

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/21/Worldandnation/Bush_built_success_on.shtml

"W"s bottom line is, "all that stuff has been vetted".  Well, Obama was vetted plenty as well during the campaign.  Every investigative reporter and particularly every right wing future swiftboat captain has been sailing that ship through them waters for months now. 

After you get done with your thourough and impartial look and comparison to "W"s outrageous sweatheart transactions where influence peddlers and buyers put the financial wind beneath Georgie's sails, please do come back on here and explain all the nuances and differences, since these subjects are right up you alley.  And when you finish, maybe take a whack at and revisit Neil Bush's Silverado schemes and apply your same standards for cleaning up and establishing 'good gobment' to those Silverado dealings.

If you really look at these Bush family histories, this sort of financial schemming is a family tradition, along with all their most ardent supporters.  Hell, bail outs have been a cornerstone of the business plan of that Bush bunch for a long time, it seems to me.  Even Inspector Clouseau could connect the dots there!  ::) ::) ;D
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Jim Nugent

Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2009, 12:31:14 AM »
Shivas,

Thanks for the update. If you type in "obama rezco" in google you get 946,000 results. If you type in "mccain keating" into google you get 1.4 million results.

All of this has been covered and you have offered nothing new.

The was all covered during the election and the results stand:

Obama: 64,385,746 popular votes; 349 electoral votes
McCain: 56,712,551 popular votes; 163 electoral votes

It is not a perfect system here in the US, but it is the best there is, I believe. I do respect your belief that it can and should be better, but I would focus in on 2012. Personally I would like to see Bobby Jindal run in 2012. Then Michael Moore (our Michael Moore) can spread some Brown University gossip around!



So your response to Dave's points is:

1.  Google has more entries on McCain/Keating, and

2.  Obama got more votes.

Mike, are you in politics yourself?   ;)

W.H. Cosgrove

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2009, 12:47:14 AM »
Want to help golf?  Bring back the official ability to deduct dues on income tax.  Allow some latitude in taxes, wages and minimum age laws for the creation of caddy programs as part of no child left behind to provide some work for the youth of america.  Waive the minimum wage(now $9 per hour in Washington State) requirements. 

That should be popular in the don't cut taxes for the rich era.

We don't need a lot of new courses in my area but we certainly need a way to get some of the ones we have to be financialy viable.

Mike Sweeney

Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2009, 10:45:49 AM »
Shivas,

I think you should either run for President in 2012 and make things better or move to Long Island and sing with Billy Joel:

"There's a place in the world for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl,
He's always at home with his back to the wall.
And he's proud of his scars and the battles he's lost,
And he struggles and bleeds as he hangs on the cross-
And he likes to be known as the angry young man."

Kyle Harris

Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #68 on: January 18, 2009, 11:20:51 AM »
The day our president is popularly elected is the day I RUN/MOVE to Scotland.

Dan King

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2009, 11:49:21 AM »
Lou Duran writes:
I don't remember the source of my information.  But you, the master of the internet search, can certainly find it if your motivation is to seek "the truth".

I think I did that. I found the Media Matter report, which is often spun to show the media has a heavy liberal bias, when reality is it shows the media has a heavy non-partisan bias. Which do you believe is a more significant fact:  99.957 percent of the press gave to no candidate or 0.125 gave to a democratic candidate.

Jim Kennedy writes:
I still don't see any proof Dave, I only see you  'spinning'.

What would you consider proof?

Would Rezco have to admit that he bought the piece of property as a bribe and Obama would say, "Sure, that is exactly what is was." or would you accept something less than full admissions from all involved parties?

The big difference between a successful politician and a failed politician is the successful one has to be willing to sell their soul. Obama is about as successful a politician as there is. Nobody should be all that shocked he had to sell his soul to get ahead. Our job as a country should be attempting to figure out a way that politicians don't have to be dishonest to be successful.

Cheers,
Dan King
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2009, 12:03:56 PM »
Dave, if you will, I'll meet you on a neutral shore on these matters, in that I will concede the Resko thing is soft money propping up of a rising star politician, and typical of the entire landscape (not just in Chicago) but everywhere when it comes to schemes to get politicians on a financial standing to run for big offices.  And, though Obama also succumbed to the political calculus of realizing that their team had put together a fund raising juggernaut and thus elected not to accept the restrictions of the public finance option contrary to his previous expressed position, the need for real campaign finance reform with sharp teeth enforcement is all the more exemplified as the only way to get this kind of soft money game playing out of politics.  Dave, you can't have it both ways and harp and scream and make a federal case out of a mole hill that is the actual financial scope of the R.E. sale and useless side lot land purchase that advantaged the Obama's by a pittance compared to the scope and breadth of the Harken deal and more so the Texas Rangers DeWitt-Rainwater triangulation.  The scale of those Bush transactions was enormous by comparison. 

And, the scope of the gang that was all the while putting air under Bush's sails was as dirty and financially conspiratorial as anything in history.   That cabal of well healed oil and R.E. men reached deep into the money base of a very slimy right wing Republican base that gave us a full court press grab play conspiracy to take over the key reigns of governement, not just one office of Governor and then up to President.  These people are insidiously corrupt and in a shadow world that propped up the entire Bush administration top to bottom.  Why and how?  Because he truly is a stupid man with more lazy intellectual lack of ethic than any other President in history, with the exception of maybe Grant, Harding, Nixon or Clinton.  And, I'd argue that while matching the others cronyism corruption, Bush trumps them in shear stupidity.

As for Resko, I'd say that the real test of where corruption would be effectively proven, is if Resko gets some sort of rythm, a pass, whatever.  I need to see a quid pro quo before I call foul and corruption.  We saw McDougle sit in the pokey (maybe as Resko is expected to do) but then get a pardon, along with other Clinton pardons that are sickening.  I know you will now jump in with Holder.  But, so be it.  I'm not shirking calling foul there either. 

But, what is YOUR alternative Dave?  I didn't see you running on any political reform ticket.  You aren't going to tell us that we'd have been better served by a droll and small idea McCain-Palin presidency when bold and national inspiration are needed at this time, are you?  There are too many skeletons to go around in this political and campaign fund raising environment to spawn a real unbeholding honest candidate- through and throught, IMHO. 

Your continuous rage over the Obama R.E. stuff is like the guy in the movie, "there is gambling going on here, I'm shocked, shocked ..."
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2009, 12:20:44 PM »
Dan,
Obama said, "I am the first one to acknowledge that it was a boneheaded move for me to purchase this 10-foot strip from Rezko, given that he was already under a cloud of concern. I will also acknowledge that from his perspective, he no doubt believed that by buying the piece of property next to me that he would, if not be doing me a favor, it would help strengthen our relationship."
His mistake was allowing the appearance of impropriety, but proof is a smoking gun, and no one has produced anything close to that, not even Dave.

And here's some spin: Dave said the real estate market in that area was 'White Hot'. I would think that was a step up from 'Red hot' and properties in such a neighborhood get snapped right up, but yet this house sat on the market for four months, and the owner accepted the Obama's  BID, which was one of only two.    
And he uses the sliver lot as an example that Obama got his 'deal' because Rezko overpaid the owner of the lot, but Rezko only paid the asking price to the owner, no more, no less. And if Rezko overpaid for the lot, how did he sell it for 575k a year later (this is one year after Obama paid 104k for the strip he bought) ? Rezko made 54k on the deal.

Again, Obama acknowledged he made a knuckleheaded move, and ever since he began his rise to power reporters have been digging away at his past, looking for any shreds of proof that Obama did anything for Rezko in return.

Nothing!
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Craig Sweet

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #72 on: January 18, 2009, 12:46:12 PM »
This is from Newsweek magazine

 Did Rezko help Obama buy a house? In June 2005, Obama and his wife, Michelle, purchased a large home on Chicago's South Side. The owners of the property wanted to sell both the house and the adjacent lot as a package deal, but the Obamas didn't want to buy the extra land. Obama consulted his friend Rezko, who had once lived in the same neighborhood. In transactions that closed at the same meeting on the same day, Obama bought the house for $1.65 million—$300,000 less than the sellers had originally asked—and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought the lot next door for $625,000. Several months later Rita Rezko sold the Obamas a strip of the vacant lot for $104,500. Several months after that, Tony Rezko was indicted by the Feds on the unrelated charges.

Obama has said he negotiated a fair price for the house, got no help from Rezko in buying it and paid market value for the strip of land he later bought from the Rezkos. But critics have said the deal left the impression that Obama had allowed himself to become beholden to an operator known for cozying up to pols.

So...this is "selling your soul"?  That's a laugh...and all this is a distraction.

Check out the long history of nasty stuff done by, and fo,r the Bush family...and their croonies....this is truly scarry stuff and directly goes to undermining our democracy.

http://www.communitycurrency.org/BushCrimeFamily.html

You sure can tell how truly frightened guys like Shivas are that the status quo of the last 30 years is going down the tube by how desperate they are to see Obama either fail or get nailed for something in his closet.
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tlavin

Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #73 on: January 18, 2009, 12:55:23 PM »
8) do we need park/course improvements for the people or $650 million more digital converter box coupons?

infrastructure or locking in propaganda machines access.. i'll take anything in the spectrum of reasonable use infrastructure

Watching the incessant messages on television about the imminent changeover to digital makes me wonder/fantasize about what might have happened if they spent the same time, energy and money on uncovering the obvious lies that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Powell were spinning to launch us into their folly in Iraq.  The FCC laws are supposed to compel the broadcast channels to spend a certain amount of time and money on public affairs broadcasting.  Almost uniformly, this programming tends to consist of gas exchange by the political bloviators of the moment.

But pretty soon, a bunch of poor people won't be able to watch it.  Unless they get a converter box!

Craig Sweet

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Re: Geoff Shackelford's "Part of the Solution" article
« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2009, 01:18:03 PM »
What has happened with the media is a shame.  Newspapers are dying because they decided their role was to sell ads, not print the news....TV is all about entertainment...direct eyes to your program so you can sell ads...the sensational, the gossip, the so called "reality" shows are there to distract us from ever knowing what is really going on...
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