Spending a day at Augusta

[Tom Huckaby]

In my best Dan Ackroyd voice:

TOM, you ignorant SLUT! 




I actually get it, it was the yankee stadium analogy that did it for me.

Charlie - it seems the whole world gets it, except one guy who just doesn't want to.  Par for the course.....

 

[JMEvensky]

In my best Dan Ackroyd voice:

TOM, you ignorant SLUT! 




I actually get it, it was the yankee stadium analogy that did it for me.

Charlie - it seems the whole world gets it, except on guy who just doesn't want to.  Par for the course.....

 

My bet is "he" gets it also.Anyone who's played at a competitive level would have to get it.He's just being eristic.

[Tom Huckaby]

In my best Dan Ackroyd voice:

TOM, you ignorant SLUT! 




I actually get it, it was the yankee stadium analogy that did it for me.

Charlie - it seems the whole world gets it, except on guy who just doesn't want to.  Par for the course.....

 

My bet is "he" gets it also.Anyone who's played at a competitive level would have to get it.He's just being eristic.

DING DING DING DING DING

We have a winner!  And the best one-word summation of my friend Patrick Mucci that has ever been posted.  In fact that really ought to be his middle name... Patrick Eristic Mucci.

 

[Charlie Goerges]

In my best Dan Ackroyd voice:

TOM, you ignorant SLUT! 




I actually get it, it was the yankee stadium analogy that did it for me.

Charlie - it seems the whole world gets it, except on guy who just doesn't want to.  Par for the course.....

 

My bet is "he" gets it also.Anyone who's played at a competitive level would have to get it.He's just being eristic.

DING DING DING DING DING

We have a winner!  And the best one-word summation of my friend Patrick Mucci that has ever been posted.  In fact that really ought to be his middle name... Patrick Eristic Mucci.

 

Man, what a great word. I had to look it up. It seems this site is making me expand my horizons whether I like it or not!

[Tom Huckaby]

Charlie - I am not ashamed to admit I had to look it up as well... and dammit, where have you been the last few years, JME?  It's SOOOOOOOOO perfect for Mucci... From now one anyone who gets the multi-colored reply need only respond back with the one word.... ERISTIC... maybe repeating it several times will get him to see the light... ERISTIC.. ERISTIC... ERISTIC...

I can't wait! 

But yes, this site does have a way of expanding one's horizons.  Happens fairly often... which is pretty cool.

TH

[JMEvensky]

Charlie - I am not ashamed to admit I had to look it up as well... and dammit, where have you been the last few years, JME?  It's SOOOOOOOOO perfect for Mucci...

But yes, this site does have a way of expanding one's horizons.  Happens fairly often... which is pretty cool.

TH

Actually,I can't take the credit.Tom Paul has been calling him that(and other adjectives) behind his back for years.

[Tom Huckaby]

Charlie - I am not ashamed to admit I had to look it up as well... and dammit, where have you been the last few years, JME?  It's SOOOOOOOOO perfect for Mucci...

But yes, this site does have a way of expanding one's horizons.  Happens fairly often... which is pretty cool.

TH

Actually,I can't take the credit.Tom Paul has been calling him that(and other adjectives) behind his back for years.

Tom is a fine source for these things as well.  I still do applaud you for bringing this into the light of day... and expanding our horizons.

[Kalen Braley]

What a find...eristic...I had to look it up to.

We've indeed found Pats middle name.  I loved the way Wikipedia put it:

"refers to a type of dialogue or argument where the participants do not have any reasonable goal. The aim is to win the argument, not to potentially discover a true or probable answer to any specific question or topic. Eristic dialogue is arguing for the sake of conflict, fighting, and seeing who can yell the loudest"

Yup sounds about right to me. 

For the record, after having a fairly lengthy off-line discussion with Tom, I too can see his viewpoint and must admit its makes sense. Hey at least I'm not eristic all the time.  

[JMEvensky]

Charlie - I am not ashamed to admit I had to look it up as well... and dammit, where have you been the last few years, JME?  It's SOOOOOOOOO perfect for Mucci...

But yes, this site does have a way of expanding one's horizons.  Happens fairly often... which is pretty cool.

TH

Actually,I can't take the credit.Tom Paul has been calling him that(and other adjectives) behind his back for years.

Tom is a fine source for these things as well.  I still do applaud you for bringing this into the light of day... and expanding our horizons.

Before I put words in Tom Paul's mouth,I was just kidding about him being the source of the word/description.Although I'm willing to bet a very large stack of checks that he'd agree.

As to "eristic",John Updike's passing seemed to inspire me to go for the $.50 word rather than just the vanilla "argumentative".

[Tom Huckaby]

JME:  oh I feel VERY confident TEPaul would agree with the one-word summation of his friend.

 

And inspired vocabulary is never a bad thing... especially when it's so dead right on.  "Argumentative" does not really capture Pat.  Oh he's that as well... but ERISTIC ought to be someday ingraved on his tombstone.

I say this with love and respect, btw.  Pat is a great guy and a fine friend. 

TH

[Bill_McBride]

In my best Dan Ackroyd voice:

TOM, you ignorant SLUT! 




I actually get it, it was the yankee stadium analogy that did it for me.

Charlie - it seems the whole world gets it, except on guy who just doesn't want to.  Par for the course.....

 

My bet is "he" gets it also.Anyone who's played at a competitive level would have to get it.He's just being eristic.

DING DING DING DING DING

We have a winner!  And the best one-word summation of my friend Patrick Mucci that has ever been posted.  In fact that really ought to be his middle name... Patrick Eristic Mucci.

 

Man, what a great word. I had to look it up. It seems this site is making me expand my horizons whether I like it or not!

Eristic: Given to or characterized by disputatious, often specious argument.

Gotta love that "often specious.........." 

[Steve Salmen]

Patrick,

I used to think Augusta was the "one" course to play.  Since spending time on this website, I think I would rather play these four:

CPC
NGLA
Fishers Island
Sand Hills

[Tom Huckaby]

Patrick,

I used to think Augusta was the "one" course to play.  Since spending time on this website, I think I would rather play these four:

CPC
NGLA
Fishers Island
Sand Hills

Steve:  be true to thine own self, and don't drink the Kool-Aid here so quickly. 

Each of those are wonderful golf courses.  I've been privileged to play three of them, and I consider one (Sand Hills) to be the finest golf course on this planet.

HOWEVER.... for anyone who really loves to PLAY this game... and has any sense of history, awe, majesty.... there does remain only one "THE" course to play:

Augusta National.

I love each of those others.  But I'd rather play Augusta than any of them, with absolutely no question or reservation.

TH

[Tom Huckaby]

Sorry Dave - that has little or no bearing on this.

The course I have always wanted to play the most and will always want to play the most is Augusta.  Hell I hadn't heard of three of those other four until about 10 years ago.  Playing them is a JOY, for sure.  I do not mean to suggest otherwise.

However, Augusta remains king.  THE Holy Grail.

I'd expect you to see it similarly... or are we so jaded that things such as this have no more meaning?

MAYBE.... YES SIR!!!!!!!!

 

[Patrick_Mucci]

I understand.

You really don't get it. 


How many times do I have to type "I understand" before you get it ?

I understand.

That doesn't mean that I agree with your choice in terms of enjoying the round, but, I understand your desire to want to play ANGC as the best players in the world play it during the Masters.

I just want to try it once.  I get that the course is too long.  I get that the task would be herculean.  I get that little if any successes would be achieved.

But I just want to try it.  ONCE.  I don't anticipate anything other than proving to myself just how long, stupid and brutal it is from those tees.  I think that would be fun and not "disappointing" in any way.

All other rounds we play members or a combo or whatever.

Is this really so difficult to understand?


NO, I've repeatedly stated that, " I understand".

I would ask you and others a related question.

On your first round at ANGC would you prefer to play from the tips at 7,465+ or from tees representative of the Masters golf course circa 1998 ?

Would an even par round from about 6,900 be preferable to a round in the 80's from 7,465 ?

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[Patrick_Mucci]

It took you guys that long to come up with a word that partially captures my modus operandi on some of my posts ?

I informed you at the outset that Ran pays me by the number of responses and views that I produce/evoke.

Sand Hills over Augusta ?

There should be an IQ requirement before registering for this site.

On second thought, that would disqualify far too many, including that idiot savant, TEPaul.

[Charlie Goerges]

I would ask you and others a related question.

On your first round at ANGC would you prefer to play from the tips at 7,465+ or from tees representative of the Masters golf course circa 1998 ?

Would an even par round from about 6,900 be preferable to a round in the 80's from 7,465 ?[/b]

For me personally, I'd prefer to play the 98 tees. Partially because I'd have a better chance of scoring well, but mostly because those are the tees played during my formative years.

Though honestly the question might as well have been whether merely going up in the space shuttle is good enough or if I'd prefer the space-walk as well.

[Steve Pozaric]

Huh.  Interesting how this has developed into a "man-crush."  I guess Mucci has it also for all the ones he named....

The point remains that it's likely the most famous course in the world, the one I have seen more of without seeing it in person than any other.  I have lived and died with the heroics there for many years, and would like to fully test myself on the venue for such heroics.  I have zero delusions that I would sorely fail.  But that also doesn't mean I have to give up and put on the training wheels as some want me to do.

Because you see.... the whole point remains the attempt.  Showing me how far off I really am, well... I lose no ego there.  I know they play a game with which I am unfamiliar.

Just HOW unfamiliar would remain interesting for me to see.

And it's not a fair test if I put on the training wheels.

TH

Completely agree.The day I'm asked to take BP at Yankee Stadium I have no intention of hitting from 2nd base.

BINGO!

Funny how some get this, some don't.

 

The Yankee Stadium is a decent analogy on Par 3's.  The question then becomes the second shots on par 4's or 5's.  Do you want to take BP from home plate or 30 rows behind it?

Just a thought.

[C. Squier]

It took you guys that long to come up with a word that partially captures my modus operandi on some of my posts ?

I informed you at the outset that Ran pays me by the number of responses and views that I produce/evoke.

Sand Hills over Augusta ?

There should be an IQ requirement before registering for this site.

On second thought, that would disqualify far too many, including that idiot savant, TEPaul.

The Mensa website is just a few URL's to the north.....though I'm sure we'd all qualify for the triple 9's.

[Tom Huckaby]

Patrick:

ERISTIC! ERISTIC! ERISTIC!

That's all that need be said.  You now fade into irrelevance.  No questions of yours need ever be answered. I always suspected you were this way to some extent, but I look for the best in people so didn't want to believe it.  However given your public confirmation, anyone with a brain now has little choice but to ignore you.

Sorry if this costs you a few bucks.  But from what I can tell, you can afford it.

All the best. 

TH

[Tom Huckaby]

Huh.  Interesting how this has developed into a "man-crush."  I guess Mucci has it also for all the ones he named....

The point remains that it's likely the most famous course in the world, the one I have seen more of without seeing it in person than any other.  I have lived and died with the heroics there for many years, and would like to fully test myself on the venue for such heroics.  I have zero delusions that I would sorely fail.  But that also doesn't mean I have to give up and put on the training wheels as some want me to do.

Because you see.... the whole point remains the attempt.  Showing me how far off I really am, well... I lose no ego there.  I know they play a game with which I am unfamiliar.

Just HOW unfamiliar would remain interesting for me to see.

And it's not a fair test if I put on the training wheels.

TH

Completely agree.The day I'm asked to take BP at Yankee Stadium I have no intention of hitting from 2nd base.

BINGO!

Funny how some get this, some don't.

 

The Yankee Stadium is a decent analogy on Par 3's.  The question then becomes the second shots on par 4's or 5's.  Do you want to take BP from home plate or 30 rows behind it?

Just a thought.

And a decent one at that.
However, I don't buy it.  Home plate is fixed.
As are the tees on all holes, for this ONE TIME playing it. 
Subsequent rounds we move up.  But for the one time - and I would do it the first try, not giving a crap really what my score was, fully expecting to struggle to break 110, seeing the brutality for myself being the whole point of the exercise - give me the whole story, in all its brutality.

TH

[JMEvensky]

Huh.  Interesting how this has developed into a "man-crush."  I guess Mucci has it also for all the ones he named....

The point remains that it's likely the most famous course in the world, the one I have seen more of without seeing it in person than any other.  I have lived and died with the heroics there for many years, and would like to fully test myself on the venue for such heroics.  I have zero delusions that I would sorely fail.  But that also doesn't mean I have to give up and put on the training wheels as some want me to do.

Because you see.... the whole point remains the attempt.  Showing me how far off I really am, well... I lose no ego there.  I know they play a game with which I am unfamiliar.

Just HOW unfamiliar would remain interesting for me to see.

And it's not a fair test if I put on the training wheels.

TH

Completely agree.The day I'm asked to take BP at Yankee Stadium I have no intention of hitting from 2nd base.

BINGO!

Funny how some get this, some don't.

 

The Yankee Stadium is a decent analogy on Par 3's.  The question then becomes the second shots on par 4's or 5's.  Do you want to take BP from home plate or 30 rows behind it?

Just a thought.

And a decent one at that.
However, I don't buy it.  Home plate is fixed.
As are the tees on all holes, for this ONE TIME playing it. 
Subsequent rounds we move up.  But for the one time - and I would do it the first try, not giving a crap really what my score was, fully expecting to struggle to break 110, seeing the brutality for myself being the whole point of the exercise - give me the whole story, in all its brutality.

TH

Actually,the dimensions at Yankee Stadium are much shorter today after the renovation in 1973(?).The monuments used to be in play.Dimaggio/Mantle had a lot more center field to worry about than Bernie Williams.However,that really isn't the point about taking BP nor is it ,IMO,relevant to playing ANGC from the back tees.

I can't speak for Tom Huckaby,but my desire is to play ANGC exactly AS THE COMPETITORS PLAY IT.If they played left-handed,barefoot,and blind-folded,then that's the way I'd want to play it.

I don't understand why people think someone playing the back tee boxes at ANGC(or any other tournament course) is interested in comparing themself with Tour Pro's.That's a fool's errand.Their game is completely different from all but the highest level amateur's.Anyone who's played with or seen them play knows this.

For me,the experience would be about seeing what they see,exactly as they see it.It's not about comparing,it's about appreciating what they can do.

[Tom Huckaby]

JME - you can speak for me on this issue any time.  Put me down as 100% agreement with that, and very appreciative you worded it so well.

 

[Chip Gaskins]

you play from whatever tee box your host tells you to play from and like it.

[Tom Huckaby]

you play from whatever tee box your host tells you to play from and like it.

Chip - that is quite obviously assumed.  The second assumption is that said host gives you a choice.  Care to tackle it now?

TH