[rchesnut]

While we're discussing classical features that have fallen out of favor due to liability concerns, what about holes that share  fairways?  TOC has them, and Pasatiempo has at least 3 sets of holes (1 and 9, 6 and 7, and perhaps 10 and 17...and if you're Bobby Jones, 11 and 12) that originally gave players the option of playing holes from another fairway. 

[Patrick Glynn]

I think Pasa would be so cool to play with no trees between 6/7, 10/17, or in the barranca at 11.

Rob - have you played Meadow Club much? I know its not the exact same, but 13/15 there share a fairway and it works really well.

Lahinch's best holes could have been compromised: Imagine playing the Klondyke until the sand dune then skipping onto 6 so as to allow 18 a direct line of play... Scary.

14/15 used to be a shared fairway too, I am not sure if this change was for the worse though. I really like the new 15th

[Mike_Young]

By some "highly-skilled" golfers,I think punch bowl greens are not well received.

As example,a few years ago I was playing Black Creek in Chattanooga with 3 pretty accomplished amateurs.Each one thought a hole/green which allowed a ~ wayward shot to end up as close as an accurate shot was incredible.They took the position that a shot wide of the target should never be rewarded purposely.

I thought it was pretty interesting.Luckily,I'm not weighted down by being highly-skilled.

JM,
I think t is critical that the pin placement be placed in the proper positions on puch bowls such as the one at Black Creek.....if that is followed then the "highly skilled" players will not be ending up close to a hole with a wayward shot and he may need to play away from the hole to have a shot.. IMHO.....

Also, i think another feature or maybe strategy is a better word is the use of bunkers surrounding each side of a green with no access.....before carts people approached from the front of the green and such hazaeds did not interfere with ingress and egress....now we have to look at greens as being entered from a side or rear vs  when it was strictly a walking game.....

[Peter Pallotta]

To quote Daniel Wexler quoting Jimmy Demaret on the penal nature of Oakmont's bunkers,  and on the rake they used to make them that way:

"If they'd raked North Africa with it, Rommel would have never gotten past Casablanca".

Just to say, some of those old classic golf courses were/played really hard, even for the best players in the world.  I don't think that level of difficulty has been replicated in decades, and would not be well received by anyone today it it was

Peter 

[Jeff_Brauer]

I would agree with punch bowls and nursing slopes, having been critiqued for that by good players recently.

Blindness of course. Hump or Hog Back fairways. U shaped greens requiring putting around the corner.  Crossing fw.  Trees near tees that prevent playing the natural shot pattern (with drawers outnumbering faders in complaints by 10x.  Trees in the middle of fw, unless its really 2 fw.  Wild green contours (getting to be anything over 2%) especially at the front where putts may "de-green". Hey, I have even heard complaints about roundhouse breaks, now defined as aiming too much outside the hole.

There are more, I am sure, but for now, its Merry Christmas to all! (regardless of any dumb*** architectural opinions they may hold dear......)

[D_Malley]

routings which have criss crossing holes. 

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